# Who is this? Quiz bullshit

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 6, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453 "2017-01-06T15:13:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/1 "2017-01-06T15:13:03Z")

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Ok, pub quiz time. Question is - absent any other context - who is [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Frankenstein's_monster_(Boris_Karloff).jpg/220px-Frankenstein's_monster_(Boris_Karloff).jpg)?

I put Boris Karloff but apparently the answer they were after was Frankenstein. I think I was absolutely robbed because Frankenstein was the creator, not the monster, but nobody wanted to hear it. Bullllshit!

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/2 "2017-01-06T15:16:01Z")

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First rule of pub quizes, the arrangers are always correct, even when they’re wrong. Move on.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/3 "2017-01-06T15:22:32Z")

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The answer they were after is wrong. But having us support you in that is not going to get you those lost points back!

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/4 "2017-01-06T15:26:20Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/5 "2017-01-06T15:26:39Z")

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Your answer should be acceptable, although I would have provided the character’s name and not the actor’s unless they were specifically asking “who’s this actor?”

Their answer is just wrong.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/6 "2017-01-06T15:30:09Z")

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Yeah, pub mods always have the ‘correct’ answer.

Having said that. . . I would say the ‘person’ is Boris Karloff. The character was “Frankenstein’s monster,” but “Frankenstein” would have been OK (see ‘metonymy’). The monster did make a passing comment that he could have been Frankenstein’s “Adam,” although Frankenstein used less flattering terms to refer to him, usually as just “the fiend.”

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/7 "2017-01-06T15:33:30Z")

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I always think of Boris more for the roles he did without makeup such as in _The Raven_. In makeup I think more of the creature than I do him. And that isn’t Frankenstein — it is the monster.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/8 "2017-01-06T16:04:54Z")

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It’s “_moops_”.  
The OP is absolutely correct. At first I was going to say “Frankenstein’s monster” but the fact that you said who is this _person_ changed that and makes Boris Karloff, imo, the only correct answer.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/9 "2017-01-06T16:52:32Z")

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Who is this? Boris Karloff.

What is this? Frankenstein’s monster.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/10 "2017-01-06T16:59:41Z")

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You’re all wrong, it’s morning me before coffee.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/11 "2017-01-06T17:50:42Z")

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The organizer is correct, the monster is Frankenstein. It’s [canon](https://xkcd.com/1589/).

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**Author:** ![brainstall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@brainstall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brainstall)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/12 "2017-01-06T18:58:07Z")

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My first guess would have been Herman Munster.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/13 "2017-01-06T19:02:56Z")

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To answer “Boris Karloff” as the answer to a pic of movie Frankenstein is stupid because it’s obviously not the answer a general info quiz is looking for. If I answer “H2O” to a “What is this?” picture of a lake I deserve to be mocked.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/14 "2017-01-06T19:55:49Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> To answer “Boris Karloff” as the answer to a pic of movie Frankenstein is stupid because it’s obviously not the answer a general info quiz is looking for. If I answer “H2O” to a “What is this?” picture of a lake I deserve to be mocked.

I don’t see how that is the same thing at all. First off, what is a “general info quiz” and for that matter, who said this is one? Do you mean there are no “trick” questions allowed? I guess I can see allowing “Frankenstein’s monster” but as I said, the “who” to me indicates the actual _person_, since the monster is a fictional character. If it was a picture of some anonymous shopping mall Santa Claus, then Santa Claus would be the answer. If it was Billy Bob Thornton in _Bad Santa_ the correct answer would be BBT.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/15 "2017-01-06T20:56:48Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Their answer is just wrong.

It’s not wrong:

It’s perfectly valid to refer to Frankenstein’s monster as just ‘Frankenstein’, because the creature refers to Victor Frankenstein as ‘father’.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/16 "2017-01-06T21:25:50Z")

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FTR the quiz question was the same as in the OP; Who is this? With pictures underneath of various celebs and pop cultural ephemera, I’m sure you know the deal. I am mates with the quizmaster who is sticking to his guns based off this quote from the [Wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein);

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> Since the novel’s publication, the name “Frankenstein” has often been used to refer to the monster itself, as it is in the stage adaptation by Peggy Webling. This usage is sometimes considered erroneous, but usage commentators regard it as well-established and acceptable.[5][6][7]

I think he just doesn’t want to admit to being an ambiguous question-setter. I know, I should just let it go. Which I’m sure he thinks is a song performed by ‘Mrs. Frozen’.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/17 "2017-01-06T21:44:08Z")

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The opening credits for the movie specifically call him “The Monster”:  
[http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/575/frankenstein-credits.jpg](http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/575/frankenstein-credits.jpg)

By the way, I hate bar trivia where the guy is clearly just reading off questions he found and didn’t do any work.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/18 "2017-01-06T21:52:06Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> I always think of Boris more for the roles he did without makeup such as in _The Raven_. . . .

Have you seen the absurd romp, “The Tower of London,” where he’s a hunchbacked murderer? (Kills the princes in the tower and drowns Clarence in wine – Clarence played with wonderful fecklessness by Vincent Price. Basil Rathbone is pure sliced ham as Richard III.) The movie is wonderfully over-the-top, and Karloff – and everyone else! – milks it shamelessly.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/19 "2017-01-06T22:02:15Z")

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You’re all wrong. It’s not a person at all. It’s an arrangement of pixels on my computer monitor.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-quiz-bullshit/776453/20 "2017-01-06T22:08:05Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Your answer should be acceptable, although I would have provided the character’s name and not the actor’s unless they were specifically asking “who’s this actor?”

I don’t know. If I asked you [_“Who is this?”_](http://img1.rnkr-static.com/list_img_v2/6262/106262/870/groucho-marx-movies-and-films-and-filmography-u5.jpg) would you say _“That’s Quincy Wagstaff.”_

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