# Who is Watching...The Watcher? \[Open spoilers after post 24\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [October 14, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238 "2022-10-14T11:26:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/21 "2022-10-24T20:33:16Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > I do have a question about the ending: > > We see Dean watching the house and realize he probably will be eternally obsessed with the house and the identity of The Watcher. But after we hear him lie about his wherweabouts to Nora, he drives off and she pulls up. Are we meant to think she is there to watch the house also, i.e. she’s just as obsessed, or is she just following Dean? I’m not fully convinced Dean or Nora are there because they’re obsessed with the house and the Watcher, or that Nora is following Dean. IMO they will reveal the answers during the next season. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/22 "2022-10-25T12:10:00Z")
Mrs. solost and I finished the show last night. > [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > I do have a question about the ending: > > We see Dean watching the house and realize he probably will be eternally obsessed with the house and the identity of The Watcher. But after we hear him lie about his whereabouts to Nora, he drives off and she pulls up. Are we meant to think she is there to watch the house also, i.e. she’s just as obsessed, or is she just following Dean? I thought the former, Mrs. solost thought the latter. I have another question about the ending. I confess that the show got so silly I was watching with one eye, the other eye on my iPad, toward the end, so I may have missed something: So many fake-outs about The Watcher, like the P.I. pretending on her deathbed she was The Watcher, just to give the couple closure or something, which was stupid on many levels, not the least of which was that it was so easily disprovable. But when the Naomi Watts character confronted the Jennifer Coolidge real estate character after Coolidge moved into their house, and accused her of being The Watcher all along so she could get the house for peanuts, the Coolidge character seemed to implicitly agree that she was, or at least didn’t disagree. Sooo…mystery solved? So when the Coolidge character had the flood from the overflowing tub, found her dog killed, and started getting Watcher letters, I assumed at first that it was the wife taunting her, and she said as much to the cop who told her to screw off because he was her ex. But the show ends with a title card saying “The Watcher Mystery Remains Unsolved”. So, Coolidge was not actually The Watcher? Or, she had pretended she was, but there was also another “Watcher”? How many damn Watchers were there? > [@TriPolar](#): > > IMO they will reveal the answers during the next season. Can they really squeeze another season out of that turd? That has to have been a limited series. Right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/23 "2022-10-25T12:14:40Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Can they really squeeze another season out of that turd? That has to have been a limited series. Right? Right? Yep, that’s all there is. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/24 "2022-10-25T13:55:45Z")
(Asking you, as the OP) Can we dispose of the spoiler blur now? Maybe, request a mod to put a spoiler warning in the title? I’d love to discuss more about this show and especially how it concluded. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/25 "2022-10-25T14:17:18Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > (Asking you, as the OP) Can we dispose of the spoiler blur now? Maybe, request a mod to put a spoiler warning in the title? I continued with the spoiler blurring in my last post because even though I was done with the show, I like to read threads about other shows before I’ve started watching them, but if they are open spoiler threads, I have to stay away until I’ve finished the whole thing. So I continued for others who may want to learn about the show before they’ve begun watching, or not yet watched to the end. But, I guess at this point, talking about key plot points and making it big blurred spoiler blocks does not help those who have not watched, and makes it inconvenient for the rest of us. So, @What_Exit, could you maybe add something to the title like [Open spoilers after post 24], or similar? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/26 "2022-10-25T14:20:36Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/27 "2022-10-25T14:31:26Z")
Done. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/28 "2022-10-25T14:46:42Z")
Thanks What\_Exit! ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/29 "2022-10-25T14:48:33Z")
My initial reaction to the end of the show was frustration (“WTF? They’re not going to tell us who did it?) and obsession (I read the stories from _New York_ magazine before going to bed). It was only then that I realized the show ended that way to imbue the audience with the same emotions as the Dean and Nora characters. I thought that was pretty clever. When you strip everything away, it’s just some weird letters and the (possibly coincidental) death of a pet. The show really isn’t a mystery; it’s a comedy of unrelated circumstances (weird neighbors, greedy realtors, lazy cops, teenage rebellion, tunnels!) that blow those things up into an engaging thriller. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/30 "2022-10-25T20:17:53Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > > [@solost](#): > > > > Can they really squeeze another season out of that turd? That has to have been a limited series. Right? Right? > > Yep, that’s all there is. [Several websites disagree.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/the-watcher-season-2-release-date-cast-trailer/) They clearly intended another season with that ending. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/31 "2022-10-25T23:01:54Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > They clearly intended another season with that ending. The ending didn’t look like a cliffhanger to me. They were just making the point that Dean and Nora will never be able to just let the mystery go. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/32 "2022-10-25T23:58:38Z")
I don’t consider it a cliff-hanger, just some foreshadowing. It tells us the story isn’t over yet. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/33 "2022-10-26T01:41:00Z")
The question I have about Nora pulling up to the house after Dean pulls away is… When did they get a second car? ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/34 "2022-10-26T11:33:15Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > [Several websites disagree.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/the-watcher-season-2-release-date-cast-trailer/) They clearly intended another season with that ending. Interesting. I just figured it’s done because everything I’ve read refers to it as “limited series” and the story seems to be concluded. It _has_ gotten a lot of viewers. Maybe they were hedging, waiting to see what kind of reaction it got. I don’t care about Dean and Nora anymore but I’d tune in to watch the whacky neighbors 😄 ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/35 "2022-10-26T11:54:53Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > > [@TriPolar](#): > > > > [Several websites disagree.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/the-watcher-season-2-release-date-cast-trailer/) They clearly intended another season with that ending. > > Interesting. I just figured it’s done because everything I’ve read refers to it as “limited series” and the story seems to be concluded. It _has_ gotten a lot of viewers. Maybe they were hedging, waiting to see what kind of reaction it got. I agree, the ending seemed pretty done. But it wouldn’t be the first ‘limited series’ to unlimit itself when it became a hit. Not sure where they would go from the S.1 ending, but as the article TirPolar linked said, they went so far from the actual facts already that they could go full fiction and go off in any direction. Or, they could make it an anthology series, with a different terrorized family every season. It doesn’t sound like the show creators have plans for what, if anything, is next as of yet. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/36 "2022-10-26T14:19:26Z")
I think it was pretty well established by the end that almost all of the crazy originated with the actions of Dean and Nora. If there is a second season it’s just a money grab; I seriously doubt one was intended. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238/37 "2022-11-09T16:41:23Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > If there is a second season it’s just a money grab Money grab greenlight! Second season of _The Watcher_ confirmed. From the 4th paragraph in the linked article: > Netflix has also renewed Murphy’s series [_The Watcher_](https://www.avclub.com/tv/reviews/the-watcher-2022) for a second season. It’s not been revealed if the next season of _The Watcher_ will take viewers back 657 Boulevard, or take on a different macabre subject entirely. > **[Ryan Murphy's Dahmer – Monster becomes an anthology series at Netflix](https://www.avclub.com/ryan-murphy-netflix-dahmer-monster-two-more-seasons-1849752958)** > > Ryan Murphy and Netflix are paying no mind to the public outcry, accusations of exploitation, and crew members disclosing their traumatic on-set experiences, as they announce the creation of the Monster franchise. That Ryan Murphy is a busy boy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-watching-the-watcher-open-spoilers-after-post-24/973238.md?page=1)