# Who Is Winning In Syria?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 30, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316 "2012-10-30T12:33:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/141 "2013-05-18T17:30:24Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Which part is the allah akhbar cannibalism part?

The heart of Syria.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/142 "2013-05-18T21:02:21Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Which part is the allah akhbar cannibalism part?

We don’t believe in cannibalism. That’s the Catholics and they’re in Lebanon.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/143 "2013-05-19T01:32:42Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> We don’t believe in cannibalism. That’s the Catholics and they’re in Lebanon.

Now, now. It’s all ritualized. You just can’t get good organized cannibalism these days.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/144 "2013-05-19T06:38:23Z")

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Are human hearts hallal?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/145 "2013-05-19T07:43:21Z")

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No wonder there was so much worry about chemical warfare. That just ruins the flavor.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/146 "2013-05-19T19:16:29Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> No wonder there was so much worry about chemical warfare. That just ruins the flavor

You’re a heartless bastard

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/147 "2013-05-19T20:25:05Z")

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> [@Esco](#):
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> You’re a heartless bastard

That’s nonsense! I’ve got a really nice one in the fridge.

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**Author:** ![Esco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de053/32.png) [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/148 "2013-05-22T15:50:44Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> That’s nonsense! I’ve got a really nice one in the fridge

Heart goes nicely with liver paté, chianti and some fa..fa..fava beans

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/149 "2013-05-28T18:35:47Z")

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Just heard on the radio the other day: Hezbollah has announced its troops are in Syria fighting for Assad, because . . . heh-heh-heh . . . because if Assad loses . . . Heh-heh . . . Syria might fall under the control of **Islamic extremists!** :p:p:p

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/150 "2013-05-30T03:34:37Z")

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Did McCain really go over there and take some smiling happy snaps with the friendly and recently bathed rebels or was that the Onion? Are we supposed to forget they torture, rape, mutilate, kill, desecrate and eat their enemies?

Russia is selling Assad missiles. The Uk & France are selling the rebels weapons.

How is this helping?

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/151 "2013-05-30T03:57:43Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Did McCain really go over there and take some smiling happy snaps with the friendly and recently bathed rebels or was that the Onion? Are we supposed to forget they torture, rape, mutilate, kill, desecrate and eat their enemies?
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> Russia is selling Assad missiles. The Uk & France are selling the rebels weapons.
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> How is this helping?

What do you expect would happen if Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah continue to arm, train and assist Assad’s army while the rebels get almost no help at all?

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/152 "2013-05-30T04:24:13Z")

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Land wars in Asia. The only way to win is not to play.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/153 "2013-05-30T04:40:59Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> What do you expect would happen if Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah continue to arm, train and assist Assad’s army while the rebels get almost no help at all?

Assad wins, stability returns. Much less death. The rebels can lay low and think about what it is they want to accomplish beyond, “destroy all enemies,” 'cause even U2 will have a problem selling tickets to a Slaughterapalooza Genocide and Cannibalism AID concert.

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/154 "2013-05-30T14:50:53Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Assad wins, stability returns. Much less death. The rebels can lay low and think about what it is they want to accomplish beyond, “destroy all enemies,” 'cause even U2 will have a problem selling tickets to a Slaughterapalooza Genocide and Cannibalism AID concert..

All opposition groups in Syria share the goal of removing Assad. They’ve been on target from day one. Don’t forget that Assad, as a matter of policy, is also butchering his opponents, both militant and simply disobedient while the militants engage in war crimes on an individual basis. If you believe that Assad is a gentler butcher than the FSA and militant groups, you are mistaken by a wide margin.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/155 "2013-05-30T17:59:04Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> All opposition groups in Syria share the goal of removing Assad. They’ve been on target from day one. Don’t forget that Assad, as a matter of policy, is also butchering his opponents, both militant and simply disobedient while the militants engage in war crimes on an individual basis. If you believe that Assad is a gentler butcher than the FSA and militant groups, you are mistaken by a wide margin.

Then I suppose I am mistaken. We either have Assad, or we have worse than even your worst Assad nightmare. If you want to dilly-dally and pump both sides full of weaponry until there is nothing left, go for it.

I think I’ve decided only one side should get weapons. The quicker this is over, the better.

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/156 "2013-05-30T18:59:38Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Then I suppose I am mistaken. We either have Assad, or we have worse than even your worst Assad nightmare. If you want to dilly-dally and pump both sides full of weaponry until there is nothing left, go for it.
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> I think I’ve decided only one side should get weapons. The quicker this is over, the better.

What’s your plan for the refugees?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/157 "2013-05-30T22:17:56Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> What’s your plan for the refugees?

Refugees?

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/158 "2013-05-30T22:26:03Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Refugees?

[Refugees](http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=syria+refugees)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/159 "2013-05-30T22:33:13Z")

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[This might be the light-at-the-end:](http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/05/2013530194217674256.html)

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> President Bashar al-Assad has said Syria would be willing to attend peace talks with the opposition in principle, but any subsequent deal would have to be approved by a referendum.
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> Assad was referring to talks, backed by Russia and the US, planned next month in Geneva aimed at finding a political solution to the country’s civil war.
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> Speaking to Lebanon’s Hezbollah-owned Al Manar TV in his latest interview, Assad also said weapons contracts with Russia are not linked to the crisis, and that he would contest presidential elections next year if the Syrian people want him to.

Of course, neither elections nor referenda will be practical as long as the country remains in a state of civil war . . . Soooooo . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-winning-in-syria/639316/160 "2013-05-30T22:34:17Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> Land wars in Asia. The only way to win is not to play.

Oh, if your definition of “winning” is “many Asians should die,” then it’s **easy** to win a land war in Asia. In fact, it’s hard to lose one.

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