Agreed.
In fact, I think the Iranian government would consider such an action blasphemy.
I am not bullet proof and I am not on the inside looking out … I am on the outside looking in. If you say it’s not going to happen … then I will say the same thing.
I do not know more than you do, enough said:Mecca
These two countries don’t get along and Saudi Arabia would probably even allow Israel to fly over their country to destroy Iran’s nuclear assets, but the thread is about Syria and I have derailed it too much already.
I can’t read through all of this, but if you wish to here it is:
Mecca is the center of their religion and always will be:http://www.islamicboard.com/general/42628-mecca-center-earth.html
I don’t see anything there about a plan to steal the black rock by the Iranian government.
The riots you’re referring to had nothing to do with the rock by the way. It was about Saudi support for the Great Satan(the US) and quarreling over access to cemetery that the Shia pilgrims could pray at.
For those not aware, one of the differences between the Shia and the Sunnis is that the Shia like to pray at shrines for people they regard as saints. The Sunnis don’t and the Salafists(whom westerners refer to as Wahhabis), who effectively run Saudi Arabia, find this particular practice extremely offensive because, to them, it is very similar to idolatry. Sort of the way some born-again Christians find the Catholic tradition of praying to Saints to be a violation of the First Commandment.
And just to complicate matters further to show why “shia” and “sunni” are such imprecise terms, in the subcontinent groups perceived as “sunni” do the saint praying thing while most “shiia” groups do not.
Okay I admit I just made it up, but I did not make up the fact that Iran way back in the early 1990’s, was reported to have been training Iranian Marines to land on beaches with landing craft.
If you try and put the two together it sounds possible that they were training for an assult on someones beaches.
Your a sound reasoning man that has enlightened my understanding on the differences between Shia and Sunnis.
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For those not aware, one of the differences between the Shia and the Sunnis is that the Shia like to pray at shrines for people they regard as saints. The Sunnis don’t and the Salafists(whom westerners refer to as Wahhabis), who effectively run Saudi Arabia, find this particular practice extremely offensive because, to them, it is very similar to idolatry. Sort of the way some born-again Christians find the Catholic tradition of praying to Saints to be a violation of the First Commandment.
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May I ask here why are they (sunnis and shia’s) fighting each other in Iraq to the tune of thousands have died this year alone
You have got to be fucking kidding me. First, you admit that you made a fact up. Then, you go ahead and wonder why "Marines are training to land on a beach> Geez, I wonder why.
Next I expect questions why Maths students in Iran are learning algebra, why the French Navy sails, and why the USAF flies.:rolleyes:
I’m also not sure that Iran has marines, though I’m sure they have military personnel who serve that function.
That said, the idea that Iran, which has never launched an aggressive war would actually try to invade Saudi Arabia, particularly right after seeing the world’s reaction to Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait is beyond preposterous even if you ignore the logistics and the capabilities of the Iranian military.
You have got to be kidding me. Iran has never launched an agressive war… Cyrus, Xerxes, Shapur…Nadir Shah:rolleyes:;)
I said Iran. Persia on the other hand… well that’s a different story. 
Mecca is 50 miles from the beach. The Red Sea beach. Iran’s oceanfront is the Persian Gulf. If Iran wanted to perform a beach assault to push to Mecca they would have to sail their force to the Arabian Sea, into the Gulf of Aden, and get through the Bab-el-Mandeb Strait to get to the Red Sea.
This is a Warning that you are way out of line posting something that is that inflammatory when you have simply made it up to inflate your argument.
Stop it.
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So, in today’s news President Assad congratulates Egypt on removing Mursi and importantly, dealing a nasty defeat to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Any ideas how this latest defeat of the Muslim Bro’hood will affect Assad’s chances of staying in power?
Qatar owned Al-Jazeera news has apparently lost its journalistic credibility due to its overly pro-Mursi and MB editorial stance. Qatar apparently was flexing its influence in Arab affairs by supporting them and picked the wrong team. I’d expect less support from them to rebel groups in Syria.
Saudi Arabia will be happier now to be supporting a Syrian opposition with less MB in it.
I’m surprised there isn’t a dedicated thread about the apparent use of chemical weapons by Assad’s forces, killing 100s if not over 1000 people yesterday in the Damascus suburbs.
Al-Qaeda is now a major player in Syria. The US is just chomping at the bit to partner up with Al-Qaeda against Assad. Where is John McCain when we need him? Oh, yeah, he’ll be right there with Al-Qaeda as they take over Syria and inflict the most horrific Sharia law on those people the world has ever seen.
I agree-McCain is insane. The overthrow of Assad would result in a civil war, with alawites and Christians being massacred. And the Al Queda government would be actively hostile to us.
The ultimate “lose-lose” situation!
So is Hezbollah. So there’s also that international Sunni-Shi’a conflict going on as a sideshow.
OTOH, we have no reason to expect this war would end with Al-Qaeda in control; they’re not that strong in Syria.
Utterly wrong. The overthrow of Assad would mean that Iran’s influence in the region is severely diminished. That alone is more than sufficient to counterbalance all the negative ramifications of that outcome.
You think a little diminished Iranian influence more than counterbalances a civil war (well they have that already), massacres of minorities, and an Al Queda government? I think you have your priorities skewered.
And look what the Saudis dragged in:
Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria
- look what a nice Olympics you have there, shame if anything bad should happen to it. Like you know with the two towers and all.
If anywhere near truth then it alone should be enough for Russia to go actively after the Saudis. And incidentally part of why Russia is so intransigent on the Syrian matter. They know very well that there are hundreds of Russian Chechen, Dagistani, etc. running around Syria playing Jihad. An Al Queda victory will translate directly into terrorist problems in Russia. There’s also hundreds or thousands of American, Canadian, and European terrorists in Syria. You think they’ll thank you for enabling them?