# Who minted all these 'Year of the Dragon 2012' Silver bars?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 6, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-minted-all-these-year-of-the-dragon-2012-silver-bars/614916 "2012-03-06T10:31:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-minted-all-these-year-of-the-dragon-2012-silver-bars/614916/7 "2012-10-30T01:09:44Z")

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> [@What is a canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-canuck/79015/5):
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> These bars are very problematical. I myself do not know anyone to whom Chinese silver is desirable or acceptable, but that’s just a matter of opinion, I suppose. Chinese silver shows up in any number of obviously fake and not-so-obviously fake forms…some labeled “replica”, some not.
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> Check the APMEX website, one among many places where they are sold. **Note that APMEX does not post a “buyback” price.** They offer buyback on J-M bars, Englehard bars, their own-minted APMEX bars, AMark bars, Sunshine bars, Heraus bars, RCM bars, Eagles, Maples, Philharmonics, bulk silver dollars or any size junk silver bags…but they don’t seem to offer a buyback price for these Dragon bars.
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> Why do you think that is?

I understand your point of view. But they’re still .999 silver, even if APMEX doesn’t offer a buyback. I personally guarantee you a buyback of the spot price of silver. I have no doubt APMEX would do the same.

APMEX, as a major player in the bullion market, wouldn’t sell something that was fake, not silver. That’s what you’re saying.

[quote=eleventeen]  
I consider everything that comes out of China as fake. Everything.  
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I have no problem with your statement. Unfortunately, these bars don’t come out of China. Prove me wrong

> [@elevennteen](#):
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> I just bought some Pan American bars from a dealer who shall remained unnamed pending their fix/non-fix of the situation, because what arrived were these 2012 Year of the Dragon bars. To me, they are absolutely unacceptable, for reasons I just explained. My intention is to pursue administrative, followed by legal action if necessary against the dealer if they do not correct this situation. As far as I am concerned, these bars are counterfeit and my decision to buy silver does not carry with it the risk that what I buy is potentially counterfeit.

Why are you buying silver bars for anything other than than their silver value?

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