# Who or what comes to your mind when you hear "Same Old Lang Syne" by Dan fogelberg? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 21, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995 "2017-12-21T14:41:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/21 "2017-12-22T22:52:16Z")
I remember when it came out, I thought the opening melody of the verse was identical to the climax of the 1812 Overture. Later, I saw that the liner notes of the album included thanks to “Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky” for “inspiration”. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/22 "2017-12-22T23:14:18Z")
The song brings back no painful or poignant memories for me. I just wonder how pathetic you’d have to be to drink a six-pack in the car with an old flame. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/23 "2017-12-22T23:36:31Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > It’s not about the holidays at all. It’s a song about love gone wrong. > > The theme of it is, “a year ago, I gave you my heart, and you broke it immediately. I’m bitter about it, and I’m going to learn from it…but if you were to smile at me again, I’d probably fall for you again.” > > But, it’s wrapped up in the thin veneer of “I gave you my heart **as a Christmas gift** ,” and because of that, it’s been lodged in holiday playlists ever since. > > Same thing with “Same Old Lang Syne.” Yes, the lyrics mention that it occurs on Christmas Eve. That’s the only connection it has to the holiday. Love gone wrong? I don’t get that interpretation at all. I see it as 2 people once in love, then life happens and life takes them on their separate ways. But when they see each other again they think on what might have been. They were very young, back then. If that’s what you call love gone wrong, then okay. But when I hear love gone wrong, these aren’t the images I conjure. _She said she’s married her an architect Who kept her warm and safe and dry She would have liked to say she loved the man But she didn’t like to lie_ She doesn’t love the architect. Maybe she loves the singer, her old boyfriend. _I said the years had been a friend to her And that her eyes were still as blue But in those eyes I wasn’t sure if I saw Doubt or gratitude_ Again — doubt? Gratitude? _We drank a toast to innocence We drank a toast to now We tried to reach beyond the emptiness But neither one knew how_ This is wistful longing, forgotten but then realized right then and there. It’s about what might have been. What _could_ have been. (sigh) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/24 "2017-12-23T00:01:13Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Love gone wrong? I don’t get that interpretation at all. I apologize for the confusion. When I said “it’s about love gone wrong,” I was replying to Maurie (in post #11) questioning my opinion that Wham!'s “Last Christmas” isn’t a Christmas song. No, I wouldn’t describe “Same Old Lang Syne” in those terms. The parallel I was trying to draw to “Same Old Lang Syne” was that both songs have nothing to do with the Christmas / holiday season itself; they’re both about romantic love (one song positively / wistfully, the other more negatively), and just so happen to have been set during Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/25 "2017-12-23T00:02:00Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Love gone wrong? I don’t get that interpretation at all. I see it as 2 people once in love, then life happens and life takes them on their separate ways. But when they see each other again they think on what might have been. They were very young, back then. > > If that’s what you call love gone wrong, then okay. But when I hear love gone wrong, these aren’t the images I conjure. > _She said she’s married her an architect > Who kept her warm and safe and dry > She would have liked to say she loved the man > But she didn’t like to lie_ > > She doesn’t love the architect. Maybe she loves the singer, her old boyfriend. > _I said the years had been a friend to her > And that her eyes were still as blue > But in those eyes I wasn’t sure if I saw > Doubt or gratitude_ > > Again — doubt? Gratitude? > _We drank a toast to innocence > We drank a toast to now > We tried to reach beyond the emptiness > But neither one knew how_ > > This is wistful longing, forgotten but then realized right then and there. It’s about what might have been. What _could_ have been. > > (sigh) Yes, exactly this…wistful longing for what might have been ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/26 "2017-12-23T01:34:39Z")
Well to be honest, it was a high school girlfriend and who really ends up marrying the person they dated in high school? Dan errs here I feel when he calls her “my old lover”. It made her sound much, much older. But hey, it was the 70’s. Not something you would call a girl you took to a homecoming dance or sat beside in english. I think he should have put in the lyrics some more background of the relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/27 "2017-12-23T01:40:14Z")
Precisely this: There was a girl my age that I used to see at the dojo. She would train on the same schedule as mine for a few months, then seem to disappear for a few months, then come back. I thought she was cute, we flirted a bit in class, and we clearly had similar interests (martial arts, reading, writing, social sciences, etc.) but she never stuck around after class and I never got a chance to ask her out. Our instructor once asked us to go check out a new (rival) dojo in town and pretend to be a couple with a kid we were considering enrolling. We took the assignment, took notes and rendered our observations, but nothing developed from that. I could see from my instructor’s expression that her attempt to do a bit of match-making had failed and she was disappointed. I went on with my life, and so did the girl. I graduated college, went to Japan to teach English, and the dojo had closed by the time I returned. A year after I returned to the States, I saw the girl behind me at a grocery store. I finished my business and waited around to chat with her – and she took an extra long time because she recognized me while she was emptying her cart and stopped to run over to me and give me a quick hug (which pissed off the dozens of customers in line behind her). Then there was a ton of stuff in her cart that she needed to put on the conveyor belt, and then she couldn’t remember her debit card PIN and almost locked up her account. We stood behind her car in the summer afternoon sun and talked for about half an hour, even though a lot of her purchases were frozen foods. She explained the collection as “stocking up for the impending apocalypse” which she was certain was going to happen soon. She explained she had gotten involved in some survival training and another dojo that taught 32 martial arts as one big combat method and that was exciting to her because she never knew what they’d teach the next time she attended a class and sometimes it wasn’t about fighting but about astrology or numerology or wearing the right clothing to stay safe and send the right messages to observers and potential predators. As an example, she pointed to some of the vegetables in the cart and noted how one’s diet can generate offensive or attractive or neutral pheremones to people one might want to ward off or entice or just appear to be professional for. She invited me to dinner and I suddenly remembered that, since I was taking care of my aging mother, I needed to get my recently-purchased groceries home and make dinner. We hugged, she gave me a peck on the cheek, and tore a paper grocery bag to give me her phone number. As walked away, very consciously not helping her load her grocery bags into the trunk of her car, I thought, “God I’m glad I never got involved with her!” Now, every time I hear that song, I think of that chance encounter and what was never meant to be. –G! ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/28 "2017-12-23T02:23:10Z")
What it made me think of, is how much better a song [this is:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOCBFfB2Wo) ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/29 "2017-12-23T23:27:06Z")
I think this song also brings up the issue that for many people, christmas is the loneliest and toughest holiday of the year. Especially if you are without someone in your life or family. Now, could a musician like Dan Fogelberg who is on the road alot be lonely for a HS sweetheart? ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/30 "2017-12-24T03:29:14Z")
Personally, I could see that happening pretty much as the song outlines if I ran into my ex. She’s remarried twice, but I would want to talk with her about life if I ever ran into her. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/31 "2017-12-24T12:34:06Z")
Given the date and that it’s autobiographical, Fogelberg was around 24 when he encountered what I assume was an ex girlfriend from his days at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Which is a lot younger and a much shorter time frame than I always imagined for the characters in the song. I always sort of pictured a couple in their 30s or 40s who hadn’t seen each other for 5-10 years or so. And like most people you reconnect with from your past, it’s exciting and comforting to reconnect. But one you get caught up on the “what have you been doing for the past x years” conversation, there’s not a whole lot to talk about and you go back to your lives. Also drinking half a six pack and then driving off into the snow/rain is never a great idea. ---
**Author:** ![KatTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@KatTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KatTP)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/32 "2017-12-24T17:02:15Z")
I first heard that song when i was 17. It played on the Christmas track at work, and it made me cry one too many times. It was 20 years later, thanks to google, that i managed to track it down again. So, for me, it reminds me of my past. And thanks very much. I managed to shed a few tears listening to it again. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/33 "2017-12-24T17:08:26Z")
I love this song. All you naysayers can suck it. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/34 "2017-12-24T17:11:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I love this song. All you naysayers can suck it. 😛 It’s not a bad song at all (and I’ve been a Fogelberg fan since the mid '70s). I just don’t think it’s a Christmas song. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/35 "2017-12-24T18:21:25Z")
My reaction: Ugh glurge, need an insulin shot. Also feel sorry for the architect. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/36 "2017-12-24T19:04:22Z")
What comes to my mind is that Dan Fogelberg should have married him a lyricist. mmm ---
**Author:** ![I.Dunno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@I.Dunno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I.Dunno)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/37 "2017-12-25T06:21:35Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Given the date and that it’s autobiographical, Fogelberg was around 24 when he encountered what I assume was an ex girlfriend from his days at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Which is a lot younger and a much shorter time frame than I always imagined for the characters in the song. > > I always sort of pictured a couple in their 30s or 40s who hadn’t seen each other for 5-10 years or so. And like most people you reconnect with from your past, it’s exciting and comforting to reconnect. But one you get caught up on the “what have you been doing for the past x years” conversation, there’s not a whole lot to talk about and you go back to your lives. > Also drinking half a six pack and then driving off into the snow/rain is never a great idea. I believe they were high school sweethearts, not college lovers. They were back home in Peoria to be with their families on Xmas Eve. One was sent out for eggnog, the other for whipped cream if I remember correctly. They went to the same neighborhood Quickie Mart and that’s where it all started. I’m remembering all this from reading an interview that the woman gave about the song and I think it was after Fogelberg died. She had married a gym teacher or coach and she herself was a teacher in Chicago. I’m sure there was some artistic license in the song, including the architect bit. She said she first heard it on the car radio in Chicago and quickly realized the song was about her. At some point she divorced her husband and years later she was teaching in suburban St. Louis. (The last according to a deejay there several years ago.) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/38 "2017-12-27T16:46:37Z")
What springs to mind for me is that it is illegal to drink beer, or have an open container of liquor, in a car. I haven’t seen any old girlfriends in years, but I would at least invite her to come home with me (if my wife was home). Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/39 "2017-12-27T16:59:26Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > What springs to mind for me is that it is illegal to drink beer, or have an open container of liquor, in a car. In December 1975 in Colorado, maybe it wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995/40 "2017-12-27T17:10:01Z")
Dan Fogelberg: _Same Auld Lang Syne_. The lady’s name is (was) Jill Anderson Greulich. I’m including lengthy quotes below because web content sometimes changes. From Wikipedia, [Same Old Lang Syne - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_Old_Lang_Syne#Origins) > [@](#): > > As Fogelberg said on his official website, the song was autobiographical. He was visiting family back home in Peoria, Illinois in the mid-1970s when he ran into an old girlfriend at a convenience store. Fogelberg stated in interviews that he didn’t recall precisely whether the chance meeting with his ex-girlfriend was in 1975 or 1976, though he leaned toward 1975. > > After Fogelberg’s death from prostate cancer in 2007, the woman in the song, Jill Anderson Greulich, came forward with her story. Greulich told of how she and Fogelberg dated in high school. As she explained to the Peoria Journal Star in an article dated December 22, 2007, the pair knew each other in Peoria, Illinois as part of the Woodruff High School class of 1969. After graduation, each attended different colleges. Following college, Greulich married and moved to Chicago, while Fogelberg moved to Colorado to pursue a music career. While back in Peoria visiting their respective families for Christmas in 1975, Fogelberg and Greulich ran into each other on Christmas Eve at a convenience store located at 1302 East Frye Avenue in the Abington Hill district. Greulich confirmed that together, they bought a six pack of beer and drank it in her car for two hours while they talked. Five years later, after the song was released, Greulich heard the song on the radio for the first time while driving to work, but kept quiet about it, as Fogelberg also refused to disclose her identity. She stated that her reason for remaining quiet about her involvement in the song’s narrative was that coming forward would disrupt Fogelberg’s marriage. > > Greulich cited two inaccuracies in the lyrics: her eyes are green, not blue, and her husband was a physical education teacher, not an architect. In regard to the line, “She would have liked to say she loved the man, but she didn’t like to lie,” Greulich will not talk about it, but by the time of the song’s release, she and her husband had divorced. And there’s also this, from [https://atkinsbookshelf.wordpress.com/2014/12/31/the-story-behind-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/:](https://atkinsbookshelf.wordpress.com/2014/12/31/the-story-behind-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/:) > [@](#): > > The ballad, as most fans have always suspected, is autobiographical. Fogelberg explained, “In 1975… I was home in Peoria, Illinois visiting my family for Christmas. I went to a convenience store to pick up some whipping cream to make Irish coffees with, and quite unexpectedly ran into an old high school girlfriend. The rest of the song tells the story.” > > The “old lover” in that song is Jill Greulich (née Anderson). Wanting to be respectful of Fogelberg’s private life, she did not come forward with her story until after the singer passed away (Fogelberg died from prostrate cancer in 2007). In an interview with the Peoria JournalStar, Greulich shared her on-again/off-again relationship with Fogelberg when they attended Woodruff High School from 1965 to 1969. After graduation, Greulich attended Western Illinois University to major in elementary education, while Fogelberg studied theater at the University of Illinois in Urbana. They dated intermittently during their college years; however they lost touch with one another when Fogelberg moved to Colorado to pursue a career as a singer-songwriter. After graduation, Greulich moved to Chicago to work as a teacher and married a physical education teacher. The marriage didn’t not work out, and they were divorced by 1980. > > Greulich recalls the details of their chance meeting on December 24, 1975 at the convenience store (located a few blocks north of Woodruff High School), at the top of Abington Hill — the only store open on that cold Christmas Eve. (The store is located at 1302 East Frye Avenue in Peoria; it is now occupied by Short Stop Food Mart; since 2008, the street has an honorary designation: Fogelberg Parkway.) What happened was very similar to the story in the song: unable to find a bar, they drank a six-pack of beer in a car, reminisced, and reflected on their current lives, and parted. And yes, as you can imagine, family and friends worried about where these two were for more than two hours (“How long does it take to find some friggin eggnog or whipping cream during the holidays?”) But remember folks, this was 1975 BC — Before Cellphones). > > Five years later, Greulich first heard the song on the radio while driving to work; she was struck by déjà vu — “Oh my gosh! That really happened.” The song is fairly accurate with two exceptions: her eyes are green (not blue), and her husband was a PE teacher (not an architect). The very personal line in the song (“She would have liked to say she loved the man, but she didn’t like to lie.”) foreshadowed Greulich’s divorce from the PE teacher, before the song came out. Greulich noted, “Somebody said he waited until I was divorced to release the song, but I don’t know if that’s true.” Later in 1980, Greulich married her second husband, Jim Greulich, and the couple moved to St. Louis, where she teaches second grade at a local elementary school. Even without the ritual playing of the song during the holidays, Greulich treasures her memories of Fogelberg: “I’ll always have a place in my heart for Dan… Dan would be a very special person to me, even without the song.” Image searches for Jill Anderson Greulich yield these: [Jill Anderson Greulich - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=Jill+Anderson+Greulich&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=npBzaGOIeTv2SM:) (she’s on the far right) [Jill Anderson Greulich - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=Jill+Anderson+Greulich&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=8nO0ZZPydoyiaM:) (she’s in row 2) [https://www.google.com/search?q=Jill+Anderson+Greulich&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=insv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjPy8Xk1qrYAhWDJCYKHTW1DaEQ\_AUIESgB&biw=768&bih=922](https://www.google.com/search?q=Jill+Anderson+Greulich&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=insv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjPy8Xk1qrYAhWDJCYKHTW1DaEQ_AUIESgB&biw=768&bih=922) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-or-what-comes-to-your-mind-when-you-hear-same-old-lang-syne-by-dan-fogelberg/804995.md?page=3)