Sure, that doesn’t argue against others having done the same ritual - fact that there’s a formula to it that the goblins know seems to indicate it.
Why? The goblins seem way more invested in the correct formula to lead me to that conclusion. My impression was always that a reading of the “spell” in reference to any suitable “you” would work.
If Henson wanted it to look aged, he would have had FX age it up. The amount of detail put into the look of other things in his films would argue against its new-ish appearance being merely happenstance.
But even if the book is Victorian in origin, my point about it not being a dusty old relic stands.
I always got the impression she was just playing make-believe by herself.
A point I conceded in my FIRST post to you? And one you are unwilling to grant anyone else. So I refuse to continue the hijack.
So back to the actual topic of the thread, favorite villains. @Robot_Arm brings up a great subgroup of villains, the ineffective ones, often comically so. I’d like to add Invader Zim to the List - especially as he’s often self-thwarting.
She appears to be trying to memorize lines, and is dressed like a medieval princess, so I assume she’s in a play in some context. Could just be into cosplay and trying to memorize a passage she likes for funsies, though.
By the standards of what would have been observable on screen in 1986, I think he did. And something from the 19th century would definitely read as a “dusty old relic” to the kids in the target audience.
She’s definitely just playing, not doing it for a Play. It’s her thing, she’s a lonely kid who prefers fantasy worlds to the real world. She play-acts for her own amusement, then instead of just reading it, she lives it. Is it real or all just a dream? You can decide. But the adventure she goes on is definitely the same one as in the book.
A concession undercut by your subsequent continued defense of his villainy as “just what fey do”
“Kiddiefuckery and child theft are bad” isn’t really a point I’m willing to make concessions on.
I disagree. Look at just the detailing of Hoggle’s jerkin, or the objects in the Junk Lady’s collection. There are levels of things there beyond the immediately apparent, that add verisimilitude.
It didn’t to me when I was a kid, at the time. Compare the eponymous book in The Neverending Story, which definitely did read as a relic. Just by having a bit of fading on the cover, and metal hardware.
Wow. I was thinking of starting a thread like this. And since Dr. Doom and Lex Luthor have been mentioned, I’ll toss out a lesser known contender, Eclipso. Other villains can be evil, but Eclipso was evil. That is, a distillation of all the evil in a single normal human being.
Not a contender for the overall title. He did fine in talent and swimsuit, but his scores really dropped in the using-words-that-mean-what-you-think-they-mean competition.
Captain Dudley Smith. His eyes were the definition of cold. Hard to believe the same actor was Farmer Hoggett!
Upvoting Keyser Soze. My daughter loves violent media. She asked who I thought the worst villain was. I quoted the “story I believe” speech. She was impressed, and scared.
