# Who played with Wally Joyner with D. S. initials? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174 "2012-03-18T23:46:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/21 "2012-03-20T00:13:34Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I assume that he Googled the signatures of those that were suggested. Yes, that’s right. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/22 "2012-03-20T00:48:48Z")
OK, now this is like one of those “ID this song” threads. Against my better judgement, I get sucked in and I **need** to know the answer. Are you going to upload a pic? ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/23 "2012-03-20T02:35:33Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > OK, now this is like one of those “ID this song” threads. Against my better judgement, I get sucked in and I **need** to know the answer. Are you going to upload a pic? Sorry about that. I will get a photo! ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/24 "2012-03-20T02:44:23Z")
I’m just kidding around. If nobody found it on the rosters, it may well remain a mystery. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/25 "2012-03-20T02:48:19Z")
Here’s the ball with the mystery signature! Can you guys see it? I’m afraid its super small. Does anyone know how to enlarge it? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/GarySiegel/th\_baseball1.jpg](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v61/GarySiegel/?action=view¤t=baseball1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/26 "2012-03-20T03:22:08Z")
Hope this is better. [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/kLLvd.jpeg "Imgur: The magic of the Internet") ](https://imgur.com/kLLvd) ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/27 "2012-03-20T03:29:04Z")
Looks like a “Don”, “Dan”, or “Dave” or something similarly short for the first name, but you’ve already shot down most of the thoughts I would have suggested. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/28 "2012-03-20T03:39:12Z")
Was there any overlap in Atlanta with Don Baylor? Baylor was the hitting coach in 1999 and Joyner played there in 2000, but it appears that Baylor became the Cubs manager for all of 2000. [![](https://www.sportsblink.com/product_images/don-baylor-autographed-baseball-mvp-inscription-3390298.jpg) ](https://www.sportsblink.com/product_images/don-baylor-autographed-baseball-mvp-inscription-3390298.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/29 "2012-03-20T03:47:45Z")
My first thought was Don Sutton, but all the signatures I’ve seen on stuff he supposedly signed looks quite different. Maybe I can find out where Wally lives now and go ask him if he remembers signing this ball and who signed it with him!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/30 "2012-03-20T03:48:45Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Was there any overlap in Atlanta with Don Baylor? Baylor was the hitting coach in 1999 and Joyner played there in 2000, but it appears that Baylor became the Cubs manager for all of 2000. > > [http://www.sportsblink.com/product\_images/don-baylor-autographed-baseball-mvp-inscription-3390298.jpg](http://www.sportsblink.com/product_images/don-baylor-autographed-baseball-mvp-inscription-3390298.jpg) Don’s signature doesn’t match at all. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/31 "2012-03-20T15:39:28Z")
Any chance that’s an O instead of a D. An O followed by a “tall” letter downstroke look possible (though unlikely). ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/32 "2012-03-20T15:41:03Z")
Also, if a kid got it signed by both guys at a game - it could just as likely be a player or manager from the other team. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/33 "2012-03-20T15:48:06Z")
It \*could \*be a sloppy [Tim Salmon](http://cdn.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-product-image/2-d1308907-2080152-500.jpg) (imagine the bottom loop of the “D” following through to the rest of the 1st name and it almost matches: ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/34 "2012-03-20T16:22:22Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > It \*could \*be a sloppy [Tim Salmon](http://cdn.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-product-image/2-d1308907-2080152-500.jpg) (imagine the bottom loop of the “D” following through to the rest of the 1st name and it almost matches: I think that’s certainly it. They are a very good match if you connect the bottom of the “D” back around like in the Tim signature. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/35 "2012-03-20T16:24:39Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > It \*could \*be a sloppy [Tim Salmon](http://cdn.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-product-image/2-d1308907-2080152-500.jpg) (imagine the bottom loop of the “D” following through to the rest of the 1st name and it almost matches: I think we have a winner! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/36 "2012-03-20T16:56:33Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > It \*could \*be a sloppy [Tim Salmon](http://cdn.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-product-image/2-d1308907-2080152-500.jpg) (imagine the bottom loop of the “D” following through to the rest of the 1st name and it almost matches: Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/37 "2012-03-20T17:22:57Z")
I knew all that time and money spent collecting autographs would come in handy some day. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/38 "2012-03-20T23:13:16Z")
But when did their paths cross? Tim was called up to the Angels in '92, the same year Joyner was sent to the Royals. ---
**Author:** ![CateAyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@CateAyo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CateAyo)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/39 "2012-03-21T00:01:26Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > But when did their paths cross? Tim was called up to the Angels in '92, the same year Joyner was sent to the Royals. I’d guess spring training would be the best possibility. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174/40 "2012-03-21T00:08:30Z")
> **[Tim Salmon Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More |...](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/salmoti01.shtml)** > > Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Tim Salmon. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com > **[Wally Joyner Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More |...](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/joynewa01.shtml)** > > Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Wally Joyner. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com Looks like Joyner went back to the Angels for a farewell tour in 2001. Funny, when you look at the stats, Salmon probably had the better career. But, going through the thread I was thinking that Joyner would wind up being the “big” name of the two autographs. On an unrelated note. Is there a way to do a “played with” search on baseball reference, or any baseball stats site? Like on the IMDB, you can list two actors and they will list all of the movies they have worked together. It would be neat to do the same with baseball players. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-played-with-wally-joyner-with-d-s-initials/616174.md?page=3)