# Who screwed the executive pooch? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171 "2016-10-10T19:11:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/21 "2016-10-10T22:26:37Z")
> [@ultimate11](#): > > I tried getting my father in this race. Nobody’s voting in a candidate that speaks in hands and hears no evil, speaks no evil (except for the classic bird) and can’t see no evil because he laughs at newspapers like the New York Post and the Maury show. Yes really. > > Mother broke her ankle. Yeah, FDR was in a wheelchair, but no one saw that. I’m not 35 yet. > > EDIT: Alright, we’ll try this: > > _Hillary Clinton_ is a cum swallowing, dick sucking, open pussied, full out slut, whore and BITCH! > > I’m running wild tonight. I’d better get some more food while I’m waiting on steam to download one game. > > EDIT II: I did say I _was_ voting for _her_, on the last post. Wait…unless there’s something we still don’t know about DJT. You sound like a lovely person. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/22 "2016-10-10T22:33:36Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > You sound like a lovely person. He sounds like he’s 15 years old and still living with his mommy. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/23 "2016-10-10T22:46:04Z")
> [@ultimate11](#): > > _Hillary Clinton_ is a cum swallowing, dick sucking, open pussied, full out slut, whore and BITCH! > > I’m running wild tonight. I’d better get some more food while I’m waiting on steam to download one game. > > EDIT II: I did say I _was_ voting for _her_, on the last post. Complete bullshit on the last. You aren’t anywhere near old enough to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/24 "2016-10-10T22:50:27Z")
Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/25 "2016-10-10T22:59:49Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Who screwed the executive pooch? > > I did. Sorry. Poor [Bo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_(dog))! He is cute though. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/26 "2016-10-10T23:26:55Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? As a person or as our next POTUS? As a person, I’m sure she has friends. She’s “likeable enough” as Obama once said. I do like the idea of her being our next President. I’m not as excited as I was in 2008, but she’ll be fine. So, compared to most years, yes, I like that. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/27 "2016-10-10T23:30:41Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? I simply can’t make myself dislike her. I think she’d be a pleasant, if busy neighbor. I think “like” is a misplaced word. We don’t have to like our chief executive on a personal level. We don’t want to choose him or her (and what a pleasure it is to write that option without a twinge of twee correctness!) based on whether we’d like to have a beer with them. It’s not in the job to be liked. But it is in the job to be competent, and rational, and knowledgeable, and know that nearly every action of every day is going to resonate with 300 million to seven billion people for a long time. And have the due respect and consideration for the office they fill. It would be nice if the job required them to be perfect, too. But it doesn’t. HRC is imperfect… but she’s everything else we need for the next four to eight years, in the absence of an option who has both brilliant vision AND the ability to make that vision reality. (Sorry, Bern. You should write a book.) And that, I like. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/28 "2016-10-10T23:43:21Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? What do you mean by “like”? I have absolutely no reservations about voting for her. I have no reservations about her character or record in terms of her fitness for office. As a person, I have never met her. I have read that people close to her are fiercely loyal to her and that she has good relationships with them. I have also heard that she can be tough. Would I want to have the proverbial beer with her? Frankly, I have no interest in having proverbial beers with important or famous people, so that question means nothing to me. So, yeah, I guess I like her just fine. ---
**Author:** ![ultimate11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/49beb7/32.png) [@ultimate11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultimate11)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/29 "2016-10-11T00:32:05Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Complete bullshit on the last. You aren’t anywhere near old enough to vote. I was born September 25th, 1994, so not only was I old enough to vote this election, by law I was able to vote for last election too. Perhaps you’re not used to millennials voting. That’s OK. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/30 "2016-10-11T00:44:58Z")
> [@ultimate11](#): > > On one hand we have a liar, a cheat, a swindler, and a bitch, and on another hand, we have a racist, sexist, a xenophobic madman Yo. You did Trump twice. Are you going to come back and say things about Clinton? Twice? And Trump is more than just a bitch, he’s a [#WhinyLittleBitch](https://twitter.com/hashtag/whinylittlebitch). ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/31 "2016-10-11T00:51:00Z")
> [@ultimate11](#): > > I tried getting my father in this race. Nobody’s voting in a candidate that speaks in hands and hears no evil, speaks no evil (except for the classic bird) and can’t see no evil because he laughs at newspapers like the New York Post and the Maury show. Yes really. > > Mother broke her ankle. Yeah, FDR was in a wheelchair, but no one saw that. I’m not 35 yet. > > EDIT: Alright, we’ll try this: > > _Hillary Clinton_ is a cum swallowing, dick sucking, open pussied, full out slut, whore and BITCH! > > I’m running wild tonight. I’d better get some more food while I’m waiting on steam to download one game. > > EDIT II: I did say I _was_ voting for _her_, on the last post. Wait…unless there’s something we still don’t know about DJT. Excuse me, does anyone speak word salad? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/32 "2016-10-11T00:56:40Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > And Trump is more than just a bitch, he’s a [#WhinyLittleBitch](https://twitter.com/hashtag/whinylittlebitch). If their last two encounters are any indication, he’s _Hillary’s_ bitch… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/33 "2016-10-11T01:32:45Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? I’m okay with her. Would have preferred her over Obama in 2008, in fact. Heh, what if the current race was Trump vs. Obama? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/34 "2016-10-11T02:15:52Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > The candidates are a reflection of the American people. > Congratulations, we did it to ourselves. Yup. This was an odd election cycle, because the public wanted candidates who the mainstream parties didn’t want. Trump was opposed by the RNC, Sanders was opposed by the DNC. Sanders lost the primary, but he won people under 40 by wide margins. So in future primaries, the non-traditional candidate could win on the democratic side. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/35 "2016-10-11T02:17:38Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? I don’t know about like, but I don’t mind her. I think she will be a better political tactician and dealmaker than Obama. I think Hillary is more jaded and competent than Obama is, and I liked Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/36 "2016-10-11T05:51:04Z")
I live a long way away but I do have trouble seeing any real issues with Clinton. I think she will be unexciting, but basically competent. She has a lot of experience at governance, politics, being presidential etc. I suspect she will be essentially dull but fine. I really don’t get the “liar, cheat, swindler, bitch” thing: - I can’t think of anything specific about her being personally nasty, so how is she a bitch? - The “cheat, swindler” thing seems as far as I can tell to be based on the “throw enough mud” tactics used by the Republicans on Bill & Hill for the last few decades. But I have to assume there’s nothing to it, else how has she survived unscathed after so much negative attention for so long? - I haven’t come across any really egregious examples of her being untruthful. When I have made the effort to follow up on supposed examples they seem to turn into mist. I don’t doubt she’s misrepresented, spun, been economical with the truth etc. Every politician has, but it doesn’t seem to be her particular trademark. - there seems to be a suggestion she is unduly tied to rich donors. I thought that was SOP for all US politicians. Is Clinton different in some way? I know Sanders is probably more grassroots and that’s great, but that doesn’t seem sufficient to justify the shit thrown Clinton’s way. The suggestion doesn’t seem to be merely “Clinton is tied to rich donors like all successful US politicians” but rather “Clinton is unusually closely tied to rich donors”. It doesn’t seem well founded. - then there’s specific scandals like the email server thing, and Benghazi and Bill’s womanising. Again, they just seem to turn to mist the more you look into them. It’s as if there’s nothing much to hang on HRC so instead there’s just this self perpetuating meme in which she is evil personified because she is because everyone says she is because she is because everyone says she is. Not seeing it. ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/37 "2016-10-11T06:20:21Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Most of those things are not insults, are they? I don’t think any of them should be insults. I proudly own “bitch” myself. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/38 "2016-10-11T06:41:06Z")
> [@ultimate11](#): > > I was born September 25th, 1994, so not only was I old enough to vote this election, by law I was able to vote for last election too. Perhaps you’re not used to millennials voting. That’s OK. Then you should have been able to vote in 2012 as well. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/39 "2016-10-11T06:49:55Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? I’m hopelessly in love with her … if she would just dump that creep Bill and marry me, all the world’s problems would be solved. Well, maybe just my financial problems, but that’s a good start, right? She’ll be a fine President, in four years we’ll all be shitting on the next Republican nomination and no one will remember this election cycle. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171/40 "2016-10-11T07:01:00Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Does anyone genuinely _like_ Hillary Clinton? I do. Not really thought about her until this campaign, but I’ve been just a little in love with her ever since she was a total boss at that 11-hour congressional hearing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-screwed-the-executive-pooch/768171.md?page=3)