# Who should have won the 1967 Grammy award for best new artist

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**Created:** [May 4, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050 "2008-05-04T21:56:48Z")\
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I was flipping through wikipedia and noticed there was no Grammy award for best new artist for 1967. I searched other places- for no given reason no award was given in that year.  
Who do you think should have won?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/2 "2008-05-04T23:25:24Z")

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Rolf Harris.

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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/3 "2008-05-05T00:37:06Z")

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Well you’ve got Pink Floyd, The Doors, The Grateful Dead, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Buffalo Springfield, Leonard Cohen, Genesis, Traffic, and The Velvet Underground, who all released debut albums in 1967. Some may not qualify under the 1960s-era Grammy rules for what makes an artist “new” but that’s still a hell of a list.

That ought to be enough to start a nice flame-war. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/4 "2008-05-05T00:42:55Z")

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Oh hey: I forgot David Bowie and the Bee Gees. So, in case you wanted to argue for one of them, go ahead. If you’re basing it _solely_ on the material they had released that year, I think Jimi Hendrix would probably take the prize. Others had better careers and recorded (much) better bodies of work, but based on just 1967 contributions, I’d give it to Jimi.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/5 "2008-05-05T02:47:15Z")

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Wasn’t the Best New Artist in 1967 Bobbie Gentry?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/6 "2008-05-05T02:57:19Z")

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[http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY\_Awards/Winners/Results.aspx](http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/Winners/Results.aspx)

There’s the Grammy site, showing she won in '67 for Best Vocal Performance-Female, Best New Artist, and Best Contemporary Female Solo Vocal Performance, all for “Ode to Billy Joe”.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/7 "2008-05-05T03:28:41Z")

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Me. I was 2 years old and adorable, I’m sure of it.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/8 "2008-05-05T03:31:21Z")

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It should have gone to anybody but Bobby Gentry, of course. Personally I choose the Dead or Pink Floyd.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/9 "2008-05-05T05:58:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
[http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY\_Awards/Winners/Results.aspx](http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/Winners/Results.aspx)

There’s the Grammy site, showing she won in '67 for Best Vocal Performance-Female, Best New Artist, and Best Contemporary Female Solo Vocal Performance, all for “Ode to Billy Joe”.  
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I thought she won in 1968 and there was no prize for 1967.  
If she won in 1967, then who won in 1968?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/10 "2008-05-05T11:33:13Z")

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Jose Feliciano

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/11 "2008-05-05T15:27:33Z")

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[QUOTE=JohnT]  
Jose Feliciano  
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He won in '69.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/12 "2008-05-05T16:16:39Z")

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The Best New Artist Grammy was not presented at the 1967 ceremony honoring music from 1966. So forget Jimi Hendrix, et al, you need a list of people who debuted in 1966.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/13 "2008-05-05T17:12:50Z")

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[QUOTE=42fish]  
The Best New Artist Grammy was not presented at the 1967 ceremony honoring music from 1966. So forget Jimi Hendrix, et al, you need a list of people who debuted in 1966.  
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Cream, Buffalo Springfield, The Mamas and the Papas, The Monkees.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/14 "2008-05-05T18:35:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
He won in '69.  
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If you go to the Grammy site linked above and select 1968, it shows that Jose Feliciano won for that year.

Given that the previous year (1967) shows Bobby Gentry winning BNA, and it’s been determined that she did, in fact, win in 1967, I assumed that the Grammy site is correct.

As for **42fish** ’s statement the site shows the Beatles winning Best Performance by a Pop Group in 1964 for _A Hard Days Night_ which was released in 1964. They might have been _awarded_ the trophy in 1965, but it was for the year 1964 and the site accurately reflects that.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/15 "2008-05-05T21:25:06Z")

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[QUOTE=JohnT]  
If you go to the Grammy site linked above and select 1968, it shows that Jose Feliciano won for that year.

Given that the previous year (1967) shows Bobby Gentry winning BNA, and it’s been determined that she did, in fact, win in 1967, I assumed that the Grammy site is correct.

As for **42fish** ’s statement the site shows the Beatles winning Best Performance by a Pop Group in 1964 for _A Hard Days Night_ which was released in 1964. They might have been _awarded_ the trophy in 1965, but it was for the year 1964 and the site accurately reflects that.  
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That Grammy site does not seem to work for me. Every other site I look at gives no winner. Does that mean someone should update Wikipedia?

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/16 "2008-05-05T21:30:36Z")

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This should not be so complicated. On Wikipedia it says  
[winners](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_New_Artist#1960s)

Winner 1966 - Tom Jones

Winner 1968 - Bobbie Gentry  
Winner 1969 - Jose Feliciano

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/17 "2008-05-05T21:36:53Z")

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Yes, but the actual Grammy site states that the 1965 winner was Tom Jones, there was no winner for 1966, and that the 1967 was Bobbie Gentry. The Grammy site lists the years for which the artist won the award, not the year in which they actually won. For example, like I said above, the Beatles very well might have been awarded the Grammy in a ceremony performed in 1965 but the award was for their 1964 work and that’s how the Grammy’s list it: for 1964.

In short: Wiki is wrong.

ETA: Actually, the Wiki site is sloppy for it says:

“Years reflect the year in which the Grammy Awards were handed out, for records released in the previous year.”

If accuracy mattered, they’d remove the above clause and rework the graphs/dates.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-have-won-the-1967-grammy-award-for-best-new-artist/448050/18 "2008-05-05T21:49:06Z")

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[QUOTE=JohnT]  
Yes, but the actual Grammy site states that the 1965 winner was Tom Jones, there was no winner for 1966, and that the 1967 was Bobbie Gentry. The Grammy site lists the years for which the artist won the award, not the year in which they actually won. For example, like I said above, the Beatles very well might have been awarded the Grammy in a ceremony performed in 1965 but the award was for their 1964 work and that’s how the Grammy’s list it: for 1964.

In short: Wiki is wrong.

ETA: Actually, the Wiki site is sloppy for it says:

“Years reflect the year in which the Grammy Awards were handed out, for records released in the previous year.”

If accuracy mattered, they’d remove the above clause and rework the graphs/dates.  
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Who should have won the Grammy award for best new artist for 1966 ?
