I don’t see how voting for Libertarian is wasting your vote if that party matches your ideas.
For real.
You know what actually IS wasting your vote? Voting at all in a solid blue or red state, or in a gerrymandered congressional district. So in that case, the majority of Americans “waste” their vote in every election.
If only Democrats cared as much about electoral reform as they do about the miniscule number of 3rd party voters- whose support they for some strange reason feel enitled to- maybe they would start winning elections again.
There’s a website called I Side With https://www.isidewith.com/, it has a quiz you can take that tells you how much your political views match up with the candidates. As you go along with the quiz it gives you the option to get more information or to go more in depth about each issue. It also asks how important each issue is to you. I found it super helpful. There’s a lot of other useful information on the site too.
If your idea is to get rid of Trump, then voting Libertarian is wasting your vote.
Wow. I took it, skipped a few questions, and it said 72 % agreement with Trump and Bloomberg. My answers are diverse; pro life, pro gay, I figured it would be a weird answer. Will take it again only answering more of the questions.
Focus on beating Trump. He is the problem. Many people think Biden has the best chance to attract moderates. Could be true. I like Warren best, I think she is intelligent and inspiring and could really bring forth change so I am voting for her in the primary. I think she will present the clearest contrast to everything about Donald Trump. She’s everything he’s not. Compassionate, witty, and he will look awful trying to bully her.
She’s definitely not a libertarian, but at this point does that really matter? Trump’s gotta go.
I agree wholeheartedly that the best thing for this country vis-a-vis elections is that Trump loses. But here’s the thing. It doesn’t make one bit of difference in the long run whom SuntanLotion votes for, unless the election literally comes down to one vote. So why not vote your conscience, work to get others to join your party? One can usually find a reason to vote outside one’s party in this way. Thus, the third party would never develop.
I would think we have much more of a chance of the GOP breaking into the yeehaw party and the Original GOP than having a third party come in and actually be viable.
I think it would be great for the country if that were to happen. It would dump the “fuck the browns” and religious nuts into one group that had no power, then the adults in the room could actually make sound policy.
If one’s conscience does not direct every vote to be in favor of the only realistic alternative to whichever Republican is on the ballot (for ANY office) then one’s conscience is defective, and the only ethical course of action is for one to abstain from exercising one’s franchise until this defect has been remedied.
As much as I detest that attitude, I think the idea that we should box up and shelve segments of the population with respect to governance has been shown to be troublesome. It may, in truth, have factored into us having arrived at this pass.
I am not fond of white-supremacists or must-birthers or military-hawks or drill-nowers or any other of the short-sighted types, but excluding them from the process only makes them angry, frustrated and sometimes genuinely dangerous; then, when the fringers do get a hand on the levers of power, they go crazy and bad things happen.
Which is to say, we need to include everyone, at least nominally, for the sake of stability. And, though they may be stupid or ugly on some issues, they may also have worthwhile ideas on issues outside their weird kink.
As I scrolled through this thread, I saw two ads for Pete Buttigieg.
Anyway, William Weld, who was Gary Johnson’s running mate on the Libertarian ticket in 2016, is tossing his hat into the Republican ring. Whether he could actually get on the ballot will depend on whether Dumpster is still alive in November. (Don’t kid yourselves; he won’t be leaving office any other way, besides not being re-elected.)
I’m personally on the fence between Warren and Klobuchar, and no, it’s not because they and I are all women. I was a total Feel the Bern-er in 2016, but not this time; every time I see him, he’s more bent over and that is NEVER a good sign.
I don’t rate any of these candidates as A-list worthy. It’s a weak field only aided by the utter catastrophe of a president they’re pitching to unseat. I’d probably vote for Warren if my primary was tomorrow because while I have some serious questions about how feasible she has been with her plans, I think in the last month tried to broaden her message and less of that my way or the highway scoffing at others. As an educator in her past career, and her work in the Senate, she’s got the skill of breaking down information and can connect with different generations too. She scores a few own goals on the campaign trail when people are looking for some personality but retail politics isn’t her thing.
One vote can not get rid of Trump unless the state you live in was a dead heat except for your vote and your state was decisive in the electoral college.
Well, I’m in Ohio and I took that quiz again and it gave me 79% agreement with Trump. Not sure what I’m doing wrong…I did wonder why there were no Republican challengers.
Because the site is set up for a specific reason. Think about this for a minute.
Oh, I agree. I hope to live another 25 years or so. I have no doubt the situation will be much the same then as it is now. Which is a shame, but I wouldn’t dissuade others from *trying *to make a viable third party.
Well, again, one vote is not relevant in a presidential election, and I would dare say not in 99% of elections in this country. So when someone asks me whom they should vote for, I am inclined to say for the one who most represents their ideas. I’m sure that’s what you do, right?