# Who Should Replace Nancy Pelosi and Her Cronies?//Should Pelosi step aside to let younger leaders in **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567 "2017-06-21T20:48:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/21 "2017-06-21T22:52:59Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > I do not ever remember that level of animosity leveled at Dick Gephardt. Dick Gephardt didn’t have a uterus. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/22 "2017-06-21T23:23:07Z")
I was specifically responding to the allegation that Nancy Pelosi doesn’t care about her constituents. My point was that whether or not she is effective in winning seats for Democrats in conservative districts, she is a great representative of the district she represents, and cares deeply about the issues that matter to us. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Terrific](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tom_terrific/32/342_2.png) [@Tom\_Terrific](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Terrific)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/23 "2017-06-21T23:36:47Z")
Well even the conservative Michael Moore is saying Pelosi needs to go. [https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/06/21/left-winger-michael-moore-torches-dnc-democrats-have-no-leader-plans-or-a-mess-n2344645](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/06/21/left-winger-michael-moore-torches-dnc-democrats-have-no-leader-plans-or-a-mess-n2344645) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/24 "2017-06-21T23:40:49Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Pelosi’s unfairly vilified. She’s doing great. I have a feeling those two statements are not connected in the way someone would normally think. When you say “she’s doing great”, do you mean mainly for the Democrats or the Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/25 "2017-06-21T23:52:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > When you say “she’s doing great”, do you mean mainly for the Democrats or the Republicans? I sure do! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/26 "2017-06-21T23:54:38Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I sure do! I thought so! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/27 "2017-06-21T23:56:51Z")
The margin of the Georgia vote was sufficiently close that I doubt it could be seen as a particular endorsement or a particular rejection for either party or their leaderships. Well, I doubt it could be so seen by anybody not prone to Trumpian exaggeration. ---
**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/28 "2017-06-22T00:00:30Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Well, try living in SC-5, where I got plenty of mail over the last week reminding me that it was VITAL to keep Pelosi, Obama, et alia from gaining any power by electing the Democrat with his “liberal” ideas. Seriously, she was the lead Democrat named (probably because, you know, she’s the only one left in office). 😛 > > And, yet, the result in SC - 5 was quite possibly made more likely because of appeals to local voters to keep her from gaining more power. The leader of the House Democrats is always going to have to pay attention to more than the politics of his/her local district. This exactly. It was the same here in GA 6th - almost all of Karen Handel’s ads tried to associated Ossoff with Pelosi. I would say 90% of the anti-Ossoff ads mentioned her. And I would say, from the outcome, they worked. To think that the rest of America’s views of Nancy aren’t relevant is pretty naïve. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/29 "2017-06-22T00:02:30Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I have a feeling those two statements are not connected in the way someone would normally think. When you say “she’s doing great”, do you mean mainly for the Democrats or the Republicans? To answer seriously: I do think she’s unfairly vilified. She’s a fantastic asset in terms of parliamentary skill, a superb legislative strategist…a perfect Whip. As Speaker (and as Minority Leader) she’s too visible a target, and this offsets her value to Democrats. If I were trying to help Democrats, I’d ask Pelosi to serve as Whip and stop trying to lead on policy issues. And I’d ask Tim Ryan, OH-13, to consider stepping into a leadership role with an eye towards becoming Speaker or Minority Leader. But I’d rather see Pelosi continue. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/30 "2017-06-22T00:04:29Z")
We can’t have minority and majority leader with the last name of Ryan. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/31 "2017-06-22T00:26:04Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Uh, you do realize that voters in places like SC - 5 are far more representative of the American electorate as a whole than voters in Nancy Pelosi’s home district, right? The voters in Pelosi’s home district all have indoor toilets. Not sure about those in SC-5. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > I mean, there’s a reason that the House and Senate (and most governorships, as well as most state legislatures) are controlled by Republicans, right? 😉 Let’s see…in no particular order: [ul] [li]Gerrymandering that makes legislative district maps look like Jackson Pollack threw up on them[/li][li]Big Money (e.g. the Koch Bros, biggest walking arguments for estate tax that ever lived)[/li][li]The rank stupidity of the average voter.[/li][/ul] 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/32 "2017-06-22T00:29:01Z")
> [@Tom\_Terrific](#): > > Well even the conservative Michael Moore is saying Pelosi needs to go. [https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/06/21/left-winger-michael-moore-torches-dnc-democrats-have-no-leader-plans-or-a-mess-n2344645](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/06/21/left-winger-michael-moore-torches-dnc-democrats-have-no-leader-plans-or-a-mess-n2344645) You mean Michael has finally stopped devoting his life to wacko conspiracy theories? ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/33 "2017-06-22T00:33:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Thanks for your concern. We’ll take it from here. How’s that working out for ya’ ? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/34 "2017-06-22T00:33:21Z")
Replace Pelosi with a plaster bust of Jerome Lester Horwitz, and replace Schumer with a Ford 429 side-oiler. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/35 "2017-06-22T00:33:58Z")
I see no reason to replace Pelosi given that whoever would replace her would inevitably get the same treatment. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/36 "2017-06-22T00:45:08Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > The voters in Pelosi’s home district all have indoor toilets. Not sure about those in SC-5. :rolleyes: Ha ha! Stupid subhumans living in poverty! Fuck that noise. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/37 "2017-06-22T00:59:49Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Ha ha! Stupid subhumans living in poverty! > > Fuck that noise. Seems a fair response when the OP so thoroughly vilified everyone. You make up stuff about Pelosi having “cronies” meaning she’s doing secret illegal stuff, and you kinda get what you get. And I don’t see pointing out poverty as a sign of calling someone subhuman. It just means “Hey, you’re guys are making you poorer, while our guys are making us richer.” It’s simplistic bullshit, but I don’t see how it calls them subhuman. That seems to only work if you assume poor means subhuman. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/38 "2017-06-22T01:00:17Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > How’s that working out for ya’ ? Stick around, find out. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/39 "2017-06-22T01:51:37Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > The voters in Pelosi’s home district all have indoor toilets. Not sure about those in SC-5. :rolleyes: > > 🆒 You haven’t been in Pelosis district, have you? At least SCians use an actual toilet. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567/40 "2017-06-22T02:07:01Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > You haven’t been in Pelosis district, have you? At least SCians use an actual toilet. :eek: As opposed to…? Oh, riiiiiight. Pelosi’s district includes San Francisco, doesn’t it? Where, y’know, _everybody’s_ a gay piss freak who gets turned on by golden showers. And _I_ get vilified for painting with a broad brush. Yowza. :dubious: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-should-replace-nancy-pelosi-and-her-cronies-should-pelosi-step-aside-to-let-younger-leaders-in/789567.md?page=3)