# Who Still Supports Wesley Clark? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 11, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549 "2003-11-11T04:35:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![tomyoung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@tomyoung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomyoung)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/101 "2003-11-20T15:36:18Z")
[Try this.](http://theclarksphere.com/archives/000388.html#000388) It’s just some guy’s transcript, but it’s better than nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/102 "2003-11-24T14:55:25Z")
Well, I just lost all respect for Franks. He’s not qualified to comment on Clark’s character. [Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack](http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml) > [@](#): > > Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/103 "2003-11-24T14:57:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Squink \* > \*\*Well, I just lost all respect for Franks. He’s not qualified to comment on Clark’s character. > [Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack](http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml) \*\* If this were a bad post-apocalyptic role-playing game, Franks would be positioning himself for the coup… ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/104 "2003-11-25T03:42:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\*If this were a bad post-apocalyptic role-playing game, Franks would be positioning himself for the coup… \*\* Horseshit. He "expressed his worries " about what would be “catastrophic consequences.” "It’s not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. … I doubt that we’ll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.” The man is a pessimist, with a dim view of human nature and a strong belief that our way of life is fragile. Not surprising given his line of work: he’s spent his life looking at the threats to it. I hope he’s wrong, but we won’t find out for a thousand years. To spin this into ‘he’s looking forward to seizing power’ is disgusting and dishonest. The man isn’t even a political figure; he has been asked if he supports Clark, and has said no without elaborating. Who is smearing whom here? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/105 "2003-11-25T04:14:03Z")
Oh, for god’s sake…notice the little bit where it says “IF this were a bad post-apocalyptic role-playing game”. As, to my knowledge, this is NOT a bad post-apocalyptic role-playing game, then no, I’m not saying Franks is actually positioning himself to take power. God, try to inject a little geeky cyberpunk-type humor into a thread… ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/106 "2003-11-25T04:42:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\*Oh, for god’s sake…notice the little bit where it says “IF this were a bad post-apocalyptic role-playing game”. As, to my knowledge, this is NOT a bad post-apocalyptic role-playing game, then no, I’m not saying Franks is actually positioning himself to take power. > > God, try to inject a little geeky cyberpunk-type humor into a thread… \*\* You forgot to mention the death ray. If you’d have mentioned the death ray, everything would have been all right. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/107 "2003-11-25T04:59:28Z")
Sorry, Jayjay; didn’t get it. Consider all wrath deflected at Squink, who I don’t think was joking. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/108 "2003-11-26T00:23:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Consider all wrath deflected at Squink, who I don’t think was joking. Of course not. Slingers of shit like General Franks are fully deserving of having their own shit noted, and flung back at them. On a slightly different note, didn’t you think his handling of the final assualt on Mt. Doom, or whatever, in Afghanistan was a bit on the wimpy side ? If he’d been a bit less indecisive, Osama might not have gotten away. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/109 "2003-11-26T01:32:19Z")
Which is it? Is he indecisive and wimpy, or the next arch-villian? Isn’t it just possible that he said what he said as a _warning_? As in, “Don’t let this happen, people.” ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549/110 "2003-11-26T02:02:04Z")
Sure, you’re welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt **Sam**. Just as I’ll give Clark the benefit of the doubt. Franks _appears_ to say some pretty wild stuff. That implies that treating Frank’s assessment of Clark’s character as gospel truth just isn’t warranted. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-still-supports-wesley-clark/212549.md?page=5)