# Who thinks "iron chef" Bobby Flay blows high calorie chunks? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 31, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217 "2008-05-31T00:48:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/61 "2008-06-02T16:22:40Z")
[QUOTE=Drain Bead] This article is several years old, but not much has changed… [The Staggering Dicketry of Bobby Flay](http://www.flakmag.com/tv/flay.html) [/QUOTE] Without commenting on the correctness of the article one way or another, this line is hysterical: > [@](#): > > At the end of each episode of “FoodNation,” Flay entreats viewers to “get out there and eat America!” After watching him for an hour, viewers may have their own ideas about what Flay can eat. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/62 "2008-06-02T17:06:35Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Would someone else in the world please remember, along with me, that Paula Deen lied on Oprah, wayback before Food Network gave her a show? That what she said about her life on Oprah is 180 degrees from what she said in her Chefography? [/QUOTE] Could you elaborate on that? I wasn’t aware of this, and some cursory googling isn’t turning anything up. ---
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[QUOTE=shy guy] Could you elaborate on that? I wasn’t aware of this, and some cursory googling isn’t turning anything up. [/QUOTE] IIRC a big part of her chefography was about her battle with agoraphobia. Someone here mentioned that what she said on Oprah had a totally different story about her early life. Can’t remember more. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/64 "2008-06-03T01:48:22Z")
I don’t like him. He’s just a plain ass, but that doesn’t mean he can’t cook good food. It’s not really my preference, but what I’ve seen the few times I had to watch looked decent. I notice the same kind of thing on _Top Chef_. But he’s still an ass and I don’t even like to watch him lose. Anyone else find it ironic that we’ve dragged Bobby Flay into the BBQ pit? Edit: **Drain Bead** ’s link makes me realize why: he never seems to like any one else’s cooking. How can that be? Ass. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/65 "2008-06-03T03:35:00Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Would someone else in the world please remember, along with me, that Paula Deen lied on Oprah, wayback before Food Network gave her a show? That what she said about her life on Oprah is 180 degrees from what she said in her Chefography? [/QUOTE] Don’t leave us hanging. Dish! Marc ---
**Author:** ![Crackhead06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Crackhead06](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crackhead06)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/66 "2008-06-03T03:48:09Z")
[QUOTE=xtisme] _shrug_ I actually like Flay as well: [/QUOTE] Okay. I 'm open to your opinion. > [@](#): > > Well…have you ever seen Mexican or South Western food prepared? My grandmother used to use lard for everything…I think she even cooked PB&J sandwiches in the stuff. Some people like fat. Personally I’d rather eat what Flay is usually making on his grilling show than most of the other stuff on Food Network…and I probably wouldn’t eat ANY of the shit prepared (even by Flay) on Iron Chef in any case. Too weird and froo-froo for me. Yes. I’m aware that plenty of people love fat. I sometimes eat rich food like that myself. Yes, it’s very good. I admit though, I tend towards the healthy less oily type of food, and that can be just as good in my opinion. And I understand why some people wouldn’t like the food prepared on iron chef. Fact is, all chefs (including even Bobby Flay) have to cook exotic things. But I’m really open minded when it comes to food and almost anything I see plated I would eat and probably enjoy. To be honest, I really don’t care that Bobby Flay has his own shows where he does his own fatty foods, and I don’t watch them. It’s just the fact that he’s obnoxious, kind of ruins the purpose of the whole iron chef idea with his cooking, and repeatedly seeing the commercials really bugs me sometimes. > [@](#): > > Well, two things…first off, what do you base this on? Your perception? I’ve never seen him SAY that he thinks he’s good looking. Have you? > > Secondly he IS good looking. However, looks are very subjective so YMMV. Forget #2. When I posted this thread. I really didn’t try to get much of a point across. I really was trying to joke around. Bad idea, I guess. My apologies. > [@](#): > > _shrug_…they apparently actually LIKE what he makes. He’s pretty predictable, but he doesn’t use fat any more than anyone else on that show. And usually at least one of his dishes on Iron Chef actually looks semi-eatable, at least to me. He usually doesn’t use such wonderful ingredients as squid ink or the like which is a plus in my book… I have to disagree that Bobby Flay uses just as much fat as everybody else. No other iron chef seems to get the remarks he gets about how he didn’t incorperate the taste of the secret ingredients from the heavy flavours he puts. > [@](#): > > Oh, for crying out loud. Do you actually think the whole Iron Chef is anything but pure camp, especially the Japanese version?? Even if there really was an insult (which was pretty much just an artificial construct so they could do the rematch), it happened a long ass time ago. Alright, I’ll put aside the cuttingboard incident. But the cutting board incident isn’t the only obnoxious thing he did. In that same battle, he also complained his equipment was “inferior” in that battle with Morimoto. And let me guess. This is a soap opera too? Sorry, but you can’t blame Bobby flay’s obnoxious personality soley on “soap opera”. It’s because of the celebrity mentality that has developed where all famous people _have_ to be arrogent. And it really bugs me. You can also say the celebrity mentality is a “soap opera” because it’s brought upon people, but really it’s a choice, and Bobby Flay chose to be obnoxious and arrogent because that’s the mentality on celebries in general. > [@](#): > > _shrug_ He’s popular…why shouldn’t the Food Network capitalize on that? Why shouldn’t Flay? Mileage may vary after all…and some people LIKE grilled food, some folks LIKE fat. I have to admit that on his grilling show, while still a bit froo-froo for my tastes, he actually makes food I COULD eat. Usually anyway. And unlike some of the other folks on Food Network (and pretty much everyone on Iron Chef, especially the Japanese version). Well, I really don’t see why some of the other iron chefs should be more capitalized too then. > [@](#): > > Do you have a problem with all the rest of the Food Network folks having their own lines of products to? Again _shrug_…he’s popular to some folks. Why shouldn’t he and Food Network capitalize on that fact? And other chefs are popular to other folks, yet they don’t get their line of products. > [@](#): > > As others have said, he generally loses. I think it’s kind of a fun show to watch as he is attempting to beat some of the best real life cooking folks at their own game. He obviously is trying his best to, which makes if fun…and honestly I’ve seen him kind of bummed out when he WINS. I remember when he won the Mac and Cheese throw down in particular…the camera was on him when they gave the judges scores and you could see the dismay and disbelief on his face. Yes, but he’s still been a fix on throwdown (and the chowder story wasn’t the only one). And just because he does something hat he generally loses in does not make him not arrogent. Arrogent people may want to stunt and have pleasure in beating people in their own game, just saying. > [@](#): > > Why does that matter? Chefs are like IT people IMHO…arrogant as hell. ALL of them are like that…yet he does a show where he routinely gets his ass kicked and when he loses he generally takes it very well. Same as when he wins…he generally doesn’t gloat or fling it in their faces (the converse isn’t always true btw as some folks that beat him gloat their asses off or talk trash before, during and after the competition). No, not all chef’s are arrogent as hell, they choose to be because it’s the new celebrity mentality, doesn’t make it any more righteous to be arrogent that the mainstream celebrity chefs are. And plenty also _aren’t_ arrogent. I’m not saying he has never been a good sport, he’s just had unsportsmanlike moments that I didn’t like. > [@](#): > > Well, I’ve actually noticed he has expanded his fare since he has become an Iron Chef and all. I think he’s gotten a bit more sophisticated with his menu and what he uses lately. That said, I LIKE heavy cream sauces, bacon, chili powders, honey, cheese (LOTS of cheese) and BBQ sauce. I don’t like things with squid ink and other bizarre ingredient’s, nor most of the crap on Iron Chef (especially the Japanese version as I said). Don’t get me wrong, I love watching the show…but I wouldn’t feed most of that tripe to my dog. Different strokes and all that. Yes he’s expanded his fare, but he really sticks with the same thing which inneffectively gets the taste of the secret ingredient taste out. No matter how much you may resent it, iron chef is about being versatile and incorperating the secret ingredient in a variety of different ways rather than just a plain old cooking showdown where the food that tastes best wins. > [@](#): > > I think he does a decent job of making South West food. You don’t have to be from France to be a French chef after all. It’s all in what you specialize in. Bobby obviously specializes on South West fare as that is probably what he likes to eat. Lately, as I said earlier, he seems to have expanded in some other directions, especially adding some generic ‘Asian’ dishes and spices to his menu. Forget #10 as well. That was just a stuid joke on my part. ---
**Author:** ![Brilharma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Brilharma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brilharma)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/67 "2008-06-03T04:50:22Z")
[QUOTE=Crackhead06] And other chefs are popular to other folks, yet they don’t get their line of products. [/QUOTE] I think this has already been pointed out to you earlier in the thread, but I found some links for you to follow. [Mario Batali](http://www.foodnetworkstore.com/HostShow.aspx?hid=62) [Cat Cora is working on a brand](http://hfnmag.com/index.php?id=92&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=890&cHash=407baa2dea) [Rachel Ray](http://shopping.msn.com/results/small-appliances/bcatid5218/rachael-ray/2-4707344/forsale?text=category:small-appliances+Brand:Rachael-Ray) [Wolfgang Puck (single battle Iron Chef)](http://www.wolfgangpucksuperstore.com/) Seems that if you’re a chef on Food Network and you want a brand, you get one. Your phrasing of “they don’t get their line” seems to imply that there are popular chefs that are being are being denied the ability to have a brand they can call their own. This really doesn’t seem to be the case. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Buttons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Mr\_Buttons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Buttons)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/68 "2008-06-03T08:52:54Z")
[QUOTE=Crackhead06] ten reasons why I’m pitting Bobby Flay. 1. He can never cook anything that is not full of fat, cream, fat, butter, and did I say fat? Then the judges compare him to someone else’s undrenched cuisine. This is like comparing a delicious fresh fruit to a mousse-smothered chocolate chip cheesecake–with bacon. QUOTE] To quote my favorite line from “Malcolm in the Middle” as spoken by Reese- “Fat is the channel which flavor travels through” Which he responded to after being introduced to non-fat tofu piece of crap. ---
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I see Throwdown with Bobby Flay as basically Food Network exploiting Bobby Flay hatred. Think about this: they put Flay up in a plane and send him to Bumblefuck, Alabama to get the shit kicked out of him by some little old lady who’s been making biscuits every day for about a hundred years. The audience for the show is people who enjoy even a chance that Bobby Flay might get humiliated in front of a large crowd of hostile rednecks. That Flay seems to be a good sport about it actually made me think he might be not such a toolshed. ---
**Author:** ![Crackhead06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Crackhead06](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crackhead06)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/70 "2008-06-04T03:42:08Z")
> [@](#): > > To quote my favorite line from “Malcolm in the Middle” as spoken by Reese- “Fat is the channel which flavor travels through” Which he responded to after being introduced to non-fat tofu piece of crap. Now I really don’t get this hatred of tofu. I’ve had it, and personally, I love it. And I bet you half the people who say they hte tofu havn’t really tried it. I really don’t like it when any food considered “healthy” is autimatically thought of as this crap food. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/71 "2008-06-04T03:57:54Z")
Bleh. You can have all the tofu…I’ll take the fat encrusted cheese cake. -XT ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/72 "2008-06-04T04:21:02Z")
_Deep-fried_ fat encrusted cheese cake. With bacon! ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/73 "2008-06-04T04:23:48Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Would someone else in the world please remember, along with me, that Paula Deen lied on Oprah, wayback before Food Network gave her a show? That what she said about her life on Oprah is 180 degrees from what she said in her Chefography? [/QUOTE] Nope, I remember it too. It was the same episode with that one guy who became a baker and had a show on Food Network for awhile–wow, I can remember the episode so clearly, but I can’t remember that guy’s name or his show! She lied about her husband and how she pulled herself up from her own shoestrings. I personally hate Bobby Flay, and I don’t have any good reason to. I just hate his jerk face. I didn’t know whether to laugh or gape when he accused that girl of being too arrogant. But Sandra Lee deserves a pitting more than anybody else on the planet. We’ve taken to calling her show **Semi-Half-Assed**. The “food” she inflicts on the world isn’t cheaper _or_ more convenient. I’ll never forget when she made mashed potatoes (for Thanksgiving) with frozen roasted potatoes and packaged alfredo sauce. Now, I went to Food Network website so I could post the recipe as proof, but in a sickening display of revisionist history, all her mashed potato recipes have real potatoes. But that’s okay, because I have the Google on my side, and I have [found proof](http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3148189&view=findpost&p=6564404). You should read the whole thread. it’s hilarious. My point is, hate on Bobby Flay all you want, but please remember that Sandra Lee is literally the worst human being on the network. ---
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[QUOTE=silenus] With bacon! [/QUOTE] MMmm…! Bacon… -XT ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/75 "2008-06-04T13:52:20Z")
[QUOTE=Crackhead06] Now I really don’t get this hatred of tofu. I’ve had it, and personally, I love it. And I bet you half the people who say they hte tofu havn’t really tried it. I really don’t like it when any food considered “healthy” is autimatically thought of as this crap food. [/QUOTE] I have tried several different preparations of tofu. I have not liked a single one. I see no reason to subject myself to tofu ever again. ---
**Author:** ![Dorothea\_Book](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dorothea\_Book](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorothea_Book)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/76 "2008-06-05T04:06:46Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] I have tried several different preparations of tofu. I have not liked a single one. I see no reason to subject myself to tofu ever again. [/QUOTE] **D\_Odds** Have you been taking your tofu straight? If so, that is a bit like expecting to like plain toast. The trick to tofu is to find a texture that you like (personally I like extra-firm) and then use it in whatever flavors you like (since the bean curd itself hasn’t got much taste). You can make a really nice curry with tofu, it tastes great in miso soup with or without buckwheat noodles, it’s good in a salad (especially the ginger flavored kind) with lots of fruit and nuts. And this is a food that has real health benefits for your body. Now undoubtedly if Bobby Flay had tofu for the special ingredient he’d, um, roll it in honey and bbq sauce, stick it in a food processor with ground pork sausage, coat it in cornbread, and then deep fry it in duckfat…oh and cover it in a sauce of blended cheesecake–with bacon! 😉 More to the point though: I think **Crackhead** ’s point is getting a bit lost here. As I understand the guy his beef with Flay–(perhaps I should say his lean ground turkey with Flay)–is not that Flay’s food doesn’t taste good. Rather, what **Crackhead** seems to be saying is that it’s a kind of cheat since it’s easy to make food taste good (especially for US judges who love this kind of fare) when it has a lot of fat and sweet flavors. I’ve definitely noticed this trend: for example, Battle Spinach, a few weeks back put Flay up against someone cooking in a Japanese style. Whereas the Japanese-style chef did a lot dishes that involved actual spinach leaves looking rather spinach-y, two Flay dishes I can recall were creamed spinach and–I kid you not–spinach-flavored macaroni and cheese. Now, sure, if you love macaroni and cheese and if you love cream you’ll be happy to let spinach come along for the ride. But it’s a bit ridiculous to compare those flavors to a preparation that is based largely on the actual texture and flavor of a spinach leaf, no? And I think it’s absolutely true that some of the Iron Chef judges are suprisingly unaware of how biased they are toward the highly-fatted and highly-sugared dishes; they seem positively to crave it. But the truth is the more you eat of that kind of food the less your taste buds can appreciate the subtleties of something like a really beautifully-prepared vegetable. Vent away **Crackhead 06**. Your healthy vibe rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/77 "2008-06-05T14:04:49Z")
[QUOTE=pepperlandgirl] Nope, I remember it too. It was the same episode with that one guy who became a baker and had a show on Food Network for awhile–wow, I can remember the episode so clearly, but I can’t remember that guy’s name or his show! [/QUOTE] Duff? Ace of Cakes is the show - his bakery is Charm City Cakes. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/78 "2008-06-05T14:34:37Z")
[QUOTE=Dorothea Book] Now undoubtedly if Bobby Flay had tofu for the special ingredient he’d, um, roll it in honey and bbq sauce, stick it in a food processor with ground pork sausage, coat it in cornbread, and then deep fry it in duckfat…oh and cover it in a sauce of blended cheesecake–with bacon! [/QUOTE] That might inspire me to try tofu again. Otherwise, I can live without. I’ll take my soybean whole, in the shell, boiled and salted. ---
**Author:** ![Dorothea\_Book](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dorothea\_Book](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorothea_Book)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/79 "2008-06-05T14:41:21Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] That might inspire me to try tofu again. Otherwise, I can live without. I’ll take my soybean whole, in the shell, boiled and salted. [/QUOTE] Hey, that’s enough to make me lift my cutting board over my head and yell, “Endama-me!! Endame-me!! Endama-me!!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217/80 "2008-06-05T16:37:38Z")
[QUOTE=Missy2U] Duff? Ace of Cakes is the show - his bakery is Charm City Cakes. [/QUOTE] Nope, definitely not him. It’s a young African-American guy who used to be a lawyer or something and decided “Fuck this! My passion is in cake!” Ahh, it’s **Sugar Rush** with Warren Brown. Anyway, the story that the Food Network tried to sell about Paula Deen is that her husband left her for a younger woman when her boys were very young. So she had to start supporting herself by making box lunches (or something) that she and her boys would peddle, and eventually that became her catering business. She never left her house because she was cooking all the time to make ends meet! It was all very tragic. The reality is that she didn’t leave her house because she was agoraphobic, her boys were quite a bit older when she separated from her husband, and she left him, not the other way around. She didn’t begin her catering business until after she left him, and her boys did deliver the food, but not on their little bikes. Her ex-husband also gave her money to help her open her own restaurant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-thinks-iron-chef-bobby-flay-blows-high-calorie-chunks/451217.md?page=5)