# Who was the biggest bitch (male or female) in Hollywood history? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 26, 2004, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108 "2004-01-26T04:43:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/121 "2014-05-28T23:01:00Z")
> [@jerez](#): > > Well, first and foremost, I’ve only been posting since January, and it’s not my intention to spoil things for anyone or ruffle any feathers. Fooled me. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/122 "2014-05-29T00:11:21Z")
Michael Jackson and Liz Taylor. In fact, they’re friends (or so Jacko claimed.) ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/123 "2014-05-29T16:26:44Z")
Did someone 10 years ago mention Louise Rainer? (I think so, but I don’t feel like looking.) She won the Best Actress Academy Award two years in a row, and basically never worked again because everybody hated her so much. ---
**Author:** ![pinetree51](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@pinetree51](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinetree51)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/124 "2023-07-01T20:52:03Z")
You don’t have to be a Democrat to acknowledge that Ann Coulter is a nasty, nasty woman who – rather than counter an argument with an articulate response – simply responds to the individual with a gradeschool insult. She once complimented Tucker Carlson as being a “great reporter” (I guess she never read his texts) and called Walter Cronkite “an idiot”. Nothing but a cheap performance artist who does nothing to help present the Republican view in a proper fashion. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/125 "2023-07-01T21:05:23Z")
> [@jerez](#): > > Not one first-hand account among three pages of posts, most of which are playing awfully fast and loose with the reputations of strangers. I thought Dopers had higher standards. I rate them how they treat the “little people” by that I mean not on screen staff. Okay- Johnny Carson cared for his people but was distant and not chummy. David Carradine was weird and not stuck up. I lent him $5 to buy some firewood after he blew it all on a bottle of expensive champagne taking a woman to the beach. I never got it back, but the story was worth ir Raquel Welch was intelligent and Charming. Jack Lemmon was a real dick to “the little people”, treated me (security) as scum. Also others who were working. Didnt bother to get his name tag/pass and then tried the “do you know who I am” on me. I was diplomatic. This thread is a zombie of course, but it looks okay to keep posting. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/126 "2023-07-01T21:08:52Z")
I know this is old but nobody mentioned Andy Dick or Jenny McCarthy. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/127 "2023-07-01T21:12:41Z")
Okay a buddy of mine worked security for a couple of Gentlemans clubs and told me that Andy D was no longer welcome at quite a few. So a not terrible looking celebrity with lots of $$ to be tossed from a club like that- you gotta be a real dick. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/128 "2023-07-01T21:14:28Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Joan Crawford (a piece of work herself) > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > It’s probably easier to name comedians who were known to be nice people (Jack Benny, Fred Allen, George Burns) than the reverse, but almost all the pioneers in television comedy - Milton Berle, Sid Caesar, Lucille Ball ( **sampiro** , check out Stefan Kanfer’s biography oh her), Bob Hope, Jackie Gleason, Jerry Lewis - were hated and feared by their co-workers as much as they were loved by the public. Joan Crawford did a guest appearance on one episode of The Lucy Show. When Joan Crawford was asked during an interview how she liked working with Lucille Ball on the show, her response was, “And they call ME a bitch - Lucy can out-bitch me ANY day of the week!” ---
**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/129 "2023-07-01T22:20:00Z")
Don’t know about miserable, but definitely self-absorbed, obnoxious, thoroughly unlikable and extremely vicious: > **[J. Fred Muggs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Fred_Muggs)** > > J. Fred Muggs (born March 14, 1952) is a chimpanzee born in the African colony of French Cameroon that forms part of modern-day Cameroon. Brought to New York City before his first birthday, he was bought by two former NBC pages and eventually appeared on a host of television shows on that network including NBC's Today Show where he served as mascot from 1953 to 1957. Muggs worked in several television shows including a short-lived eponymous series, toured the world and worked at Busch Gardens in ... ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/130 "2023-07-01T22:45:41Z")
He was Hollywood adjacent, in that he married Marilyn Monroe, so I nominate Joe DiMaggio. What a truly terrible person. He surrounded himself with sycophants, everything and everyone was transactional to him, and he wanted everything given to him for free. I’ve read a book or three about him over the years, and whenever a new article or something comes out I wonder if it will refute anything or give a kinder viewpoint. Nope - he was apparently a very nasty and unkind person, and I can’t find many instances of anyone saying the first nice thing about him outside of his baseball skills. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/131 "2023-07-01T23:24:18Z")
This thread is old enough to vote! (And I miss @Sampiro’s Hollywood storytelling) I have my suspicions about Debra Winger. She is known to have not liked Richard Gere when they did Officer and a Gentleman Together, turned down playing in A League of Their Own because she scoffed at the idea of Madonna acting, and seems to just have a really poor attitude about things. It just seems so easy to find stories of people she doesn’t like. > **[No Terms of Endearment: The Story Behind Debra Winger and Shirley MacLaine's...](https://people.com/movies/debra-winger-shirley-maclaine-story-behind-hollywood-feud/)** > > Decades after making the classic 'Terms of Endearment' together, Debra Winger and Shirley MacLaine still makes headlines with their legendary feud. > **[Michael Douglas Says Debra Winger Bit Him, So He Refused to Work With Her:...](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/michael-douglas-debra-winger-romancing-the-stone-bite-1235254686/amp/)** > > Michael Douglas said on a recent episode of Rob Lowe’s “Literally!” podcast that he refused to work with Debra Winger in “Romancing the Stone” after a meeting between … > **[Debra Winger Says She Quit A League of Their Own Because of Madonna - E! Online](https://www.eonline.com/news/1299004/debra-winger-says-she-quit-a-league-of-their-own-because-of-madonna)** > > Debra Winger, who spent months training to play the Geena Davis role in A League of Their Own, says she quit the film after Madonna joined the cast. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/132 "2023-07-01T23:34:03Z")
I always heard Katherine Heigl was a piece of work. Concur with Steven Seagal. I’ve never heard anyone say anything good about the man. Absolutely zero sense of humor, especially about himself, and is a know-it-all who reportedly doesn’t actually know shit about anything, he’s just talking out of his ass like 99% of the time. The only thing he is actually an expert in is aikido, which is a complementary martial art, at best. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/133 "2023-07-01T23:43:24Z")
Isn’t is mandatory now to mention Will Smith? ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/134 "2023-07-02T01:00:53Z")
It’s interesting that since this thread began and was revived the first time, the bar for detestable celebrity behavior has risen considerably. Most of the stuff mentioned here now seems petty and mundane. In the wake of people like Phil Spector, Harvey Weinstein, and Bill Cosby, you now need to have committed some major felonies in order to merit consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/135 "2023-07-02T02:49:09Z")
> [@MyLiliMarlene](#): > > I have been told by a few people that worked production on Raquel Welch’s films that she was the biggest bitch that ever lived. Just nasty, rude and demanding. One person in particular told me about the revenge the crew took out on her while filming on a Yacht. > > Apparently she had a scene where she was supposed to be scuba diving along side the boat/ship whatever ya call bigggg boats. They let go of the sewage port on the ship so she was swimming in shit, poop and all that. Boy she must have been a piece of evil crap to deserve that!!! I wonder if that was on _The Last of Sheila_. ---
**Author:** ![MyLiliMarlene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@MyLiliMarlene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyLiliMarlene)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/136 "2023-07-02T03:18:45Z")
I heard the very same thing, and I heard that decades ago!!! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/137 "2023-07-02T03:33:04Z")
I know it was an old post. I just happened to see _The Last of Sheila_ recently, which had a yacht and Raquel Welch, so I figured maybe that was the movie where the story originated. I checked the thread to see if someone else had made that connection, already. Better late than never. Welcome back; hope you’re well. ---
**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/138 "2023-07-02T03:53:37Z")
Did she scuba dive in that movie? Another one it could have been was _Fathom_. I know there was a yacht in it, but I don’t know if she scuba dived in it. She did sky dive though. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/139 "2023-07-02T04:01:15Z")
> [@saucywench](#): > > Did she scuba dive in that movie? I think she had a scene where she was swimming next to the yacht. I don’t recall that she had SCUBA equipment, but I can’t say for sure. And it’s possible that part of the story may be incorrect. If you really want to foul the water near a swimmer, I’d think you want them near the surface in a plain swimsuit than deep in a wetsuit. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108/140 "2023-07-02T04:06:04Z")
I wonder if the stuff about Gabe Kaplan was due to the machinations of producer James Komack, who apparently pitted Kaplan against his co-star Marcia Strassman (who played Julie Kotter). Komack would tell Kaplan that Strassman was talking him down behind his back, and vice versa. Finally Strassman confronted Kaplan directly, and they figured out pretty quickly that Komack was screwing with them. So Strassman asked Komack to see her privately in her dressing room. As he is shutting the door behind him, he sees Kaplan standing behind it. The two of them start to grill Komack, who basically hems and haws and finally scoots out of the room as fast as he can. It was after that Kaplan decided he wasn’t doing the fourth season of the show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-biggest-bitch-male-or-female-in-hollywood-history/226108.md?page=8)