# Who was the biggest star kicked off of their own show and the show kept going?

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Not a co-star but the main character. The one that comes to my mind is Roseanne Barr being fired from “Roseanne”.

The show needn’t be named for the actor like my example was.

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Valerie Harper left in a salary dispute I believe from the show that went from being called **Valerie** to **Valerie’s Family** to **The Hogan Family**. She was on it for only the first 2 years of its 6 year run.

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Threes Company re: Suzanne Somers.

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The only trick is she was the #2 on the show and not the #1 star. Not quite the same thing.

John Ritter was the star of the show. Same for the male character in the English Sitcom it was based on [Man About the House](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_About_the_House). The male character of Robin was the prime star.

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I think the OP had the example of the biggest. I don’t know if we’ll find any bigger stars kicked off their own shows!

That being said, I have an example of another creator being kicked off their own show. Very tiny creator with a very tiny show. A cartoon on the CN called **Clarence** was created by and ran by Skyler Page (who also did the voice of the main character), who was accused of sexual assault after the first season and let go by Cartoon Network. The show went on for 3 more seasons without him.

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What about Charlie Sheen and “2 1/2 Men”?

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Charlie Sheen seems like a great example. Without question the #1 on the show.

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Minor one, Ruby Rose, the terrible actress was fired/left **Batwoman** after the first season. This terrible show only went one more year without her.

When Toper Grace (Eric Forman) left **The 70s show** , it was 100% his decision, so that doesn’t count. Also while he was the central character, I’m not sure he was still the #1 character when he left.

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ETA: Clooney leaving **ER** and Steve Carrell leaving **The Office** were big, but also the actors’ decision. The shows wanted them to stay.

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David Duchovny quit the X-files after season 6 or so. It went on for three more seasons where he only appeared sporadically.

Polly Holliday, one of the stars of the sitcom Alice (but not the title character) quit about halfway through the show’s run.

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If we are sticking with “kicked off” instead of just leaving, which most of this examples are, I have to go with Justin Roiland from Rick and Morty. He wasn’t just the main character, he was the two main characters and several supporting ones.

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> That being said, I have an example of another creator being kicked off their own show.

And we should add Justin Roiland to that list.

ETA: DigitalC is a ninja.

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Steven Hill was the lead character for the first season of Mission: Impossible. He was in a more orthodox sect of Judaism and wouldn’t work on the Sabbath. Other disputes developed, and his role was reduced and replaced by Peter Graves for the second season. Hill wound up leaving acting for close to a decade, then returned and ultimately wound up on Dick Wolf’s original Law & Order for many years.

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Also while he was the central character, I’m not sure he was still the #1 character when he left.

He was being problematic. He made it clear he wanted bigger roles as an actor, felt playing a teenager was beneath him. His part was being reduced in importance as a result, but as you say, he made the decision to leave. Didn’t turn out the way he thought it would. Karma is a bitch.

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Didn’t turn out the way he thought it would. Karma is a bitch.

Topher Grace’s movie career has gone pretty well, while the season of _That 70s Show_ without him… didn’t.

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Topher Grace’s movie career has gone pretty well,

Cite?

That career in movies seems pretty minor to me. Not that he made the wrong decision, but I think far from pretty well.

Plenty of work but hardly a star is what I see:

> **[Topher Grace | Film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topher_Grace#Film)**
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> 1.In the Street (1999) by Cheap Trick, as Eric Forman |
> 2.Don't You Want Me Baby (2011) from Atomic Tom, as Himself

FTR: I think the answer is somewhere in the middle, not karma is a bitch and not gone pretty well.

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Kevin Spacey was kicked off House of Cards due to sexual allegations against him, and the show proceeded to its final season without him.

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If we’re going to talk about Topher Grace leaving _That 70’s Show_, we should also mention Ron Howard leaving _Happy Days_. Another case of the lead character’s actor deciding to move on. Although Howard’s post sitcom career has been a lot more successful.

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> > [@garygnu](#):
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> > Topher Grace’s movie career has gone pretty well,
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> Cite?
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> That career in movies seems pretty minor to me. Not that he made the wrong decision, but I think far from pretty well.
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> Plenty of work but hardly a star is what I see:  
> [Topher Grace - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topher_Grace#Film)
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> FTR: I think the answer is somewhere in the middle, not karma is a bitch and not gone pretty well.

It’s all relative I guess. He didn’t do terribly compared to Danny Masterson and Lisa Robin Kelly. He doesn’t look that good next to A-Listers Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis. Somewhere in the middle with Laura Prepon and Wilmer Valderrama. But Topher Grace was the one who considered himself too good for the show, and his fellow castmates too.

As already mentioned, Grace wasn’t kicked off the show, and Ashton Kutcher was also exploring bigger acting opportunities. As a group of young actors it’s not surprising they’d be looking at future roles as adults.

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Shannon Doherty, on both 90210 and Charmed. Though it’s not confirmed on either that she was actually fired and debatable if she was the lead of either ensemble cast. Still, points for persistence.

All that being said, wishing her good health through her ongoing fight with cancer.

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While the definitive answer has been given, I would note John Amos being forced out of Good Times because he disagreed with Norman Lear about the DYN-O-MITE Jimmy Walker, who’s character he thought was a buffoon and a stereotype. Lear won that battle, and Good Times ran for three more seasons.

And now we have Walker shilling old people products. DYN-O-MITE!

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She wasn’t a bigger star than some mentioned above, but Cindy Williams left _Laverne & Shirley_ after filming just two episodes of the last season of the show. They kept the title the same even though Shirley didn’t appear in the last 20 episodes. Williams was fired because she got pregnant without the producers’ permission.

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