# Who was the first Pacific President? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 17, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879 "2009-11-17T04:06:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/21 "2009-11-29T07:03:32Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, you need to give it up and move on to a more fruitful faked-up outrage. > > [Pacific Rim - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Rim) > > This is an ASININE thing to argue with. I’m not outraged **Dio** , I’m merely amused by your ignorant post. If you claim Hawaii is on the Pacific Rim then so is Washington and Moscow by virtue of their inclusion in a Pacific Rim country. But then you’ll have to concede that all previous presidents were “Pacific Presidents” Simply put, Hawaii is not located on the Pacific Rim. Even Dallas ,Texas is closer to the rim of the Pacific Ocean. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/22 "2009-11-29T07:12:09Z")
Hawaii IS on the Pacific rim. Move on to something else. I’m sure Obama will put ketchup on a hot dog or something, and you can get all indignant about that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/23 "2009-11-29T07:19:29Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Hawaii IS on the Pacific rim. Move on to something else. I’m sure Obama will put ketchup on a hot dog or something, and you can get all indignant about that. No it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/24 "2009-11-29T07:22:11Z")
I already posted the cite. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/25 "2009-11-29T07:27:37Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > He wasn’t born in the Pacific Rim, and that’s what Obama was explicitly referring to. How is Orange County not on the Pacific Rim? I mean, Yorba Linda isn’t itself on the ocean, but I think you’re being overly nitpicky here. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/26 "2009-11-29T07:33:35Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I already posted the cite. To quote your cite > [@](#): > > The Pacific Rim refers to the countries and cities located around the edge of the Pacific Ocean. There are many economic centers around the Pacific Rim, such as Auckland, Busan, Brisbane, Ho Chi Minh City, Hong Kong, Lima, Los Angeles, Manila, Melbourne, Panama City, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, Santiago, Seattle, Seoul, Shanghai, Singapore, Sydney, Taipei, Tokyo, Vancouver, and Yokohama Where’s Honolulu ? it sure ain’t located around the edge of the Pacific Ocean. Give it up **Dio**. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/27 "2009-11-29T07:36:30Z")
I’m being overly nitpicky? I’m not the one who started a thread to express outrage over Barack Obama trying to connect with the Japanese by pointing out his Pacific background. And no, California doesn’t count in the specific context he was using (i.e. finding geographical commonalities with Japan). It’s petty and partisan to the point of being infantile to try to act like this is something Americans should be outraged about, or to suggest with a straight face that Nixon had a “Pacific” background. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/28 "2009-11-29T07:37:34Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > To quote your cite > > Where’s Honolulu ? it sure ain’t located around the edge of the Pacific Ocean. > > Give it up **Dio**. Read my cite. Honolulu is the headquarters. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/29 "2009-11-29T07:42:09Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m being overly nitpicky? I’m not the one who started a thread to express outrage over Barack Obama trying to connect with the Japanese by pointing out his Pacific background. I don’t think the OP was “expressing outrage”. He just said that the President was being hyperbolic. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/30 "2009-11-29T07:46:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Read my cite. Honolulu is the headquarters. Headquarters of various Pacific Rim organizations. That doesn’t mean that it’s on the Pacific Rim itself. It could just be, since it’s the biggest city in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, a natural central meeting place, not giving geographical advantage to any one Pacific Rim city. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/31 "2009-11-29T07:47:03Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Read my cite. Honolulu is the headquarters. So what. London, England was not in British North America when it was the headquarters of the region. Your cite as I pointed out specifically excluded Honolulu as being on the Pacific Rim. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/32 "2009-11-29T10:58:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Obama was born in the Pacific Kenya’s on the Indian Ocean. ::d&r:: ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/33 "2009-11-29T19:27:27Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I don’t think the OP was “expressing outrage”. He just said that the President was being hyperbolic. He said it was a “slight to other Presidents,” which is inane. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879/34 "2009-11-30T02:26:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > He said it was a “slight to other Presidents,” which is inane. He only said that in response to your claim that he was nitpicking. If you’re going to escalate the rhetoric, you have to expect him to do the same. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-the-first-pacific-president/517879.md?page=1)