# Who was this Christian speaker I saw as a kid? (ex-con, more details inside) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 6, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152 "2018-08-06T03:06:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/41 "2025-10-30T02:55:15Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > How would a judge know? A judge should only know what is presented to them in court. Really? Like all you know is what has been presented in a court? Ok, how many judges do you know personally? How many have you spoken to today? Where does your knowledge of judges, judgements, crime and criminals come from? You’ve made judgement about some character you’ve never met, on the evidence presented in an internet thread. I don’t think that your judgement has any particular validity. Certainly your characterisation of judges doesn’t help your case. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/42 "2025-10-30T12:46:25Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > You’ve made judgement about some character you’ve never met, on the evidence presented in an internet thread. Well, an internet thread. And a published court case. And the man’s own description of a past as Christian motivational speaker. And the broader tapestry of our knowledge about Christian grifts. And FWIW, I know many judges. And FWIW, I don’t necessarily trust them all—certainly not the type who would end up hearing an appeal in Georgia. But then again, I trust Christian grifters from just about anywhere even less. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/43 "2025-10-30T13:15:47Z")
As the factual question was resolved when this thread was bumped (around post 24) and the discussion has moved on, I’m moving this to IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/44 "2025-10-30T14:59:14Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Sure. And I really do believe he is a murderer, much as he says he was convicted of murder. I just don’t buy the part where he insists he was a poor, hapless getaway driver framed by his accomplices. Note, that isn’t actually the story he told. He doesn’t admit to being a getaway driver. He says that his two friends went and committed armed robbery without his knowledge or involvement. Then they came and asked him to drive them away, which he did. If his story is true then he isn’t a murderer. IF it’s true. I don’t claim it is, and I don’t claim it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/45 "2025-11-01T01:48:17Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Note, that isn’t actually the story he told. He doesn’t admit to being a getaway driver. Yes, he says he didn’t know they were going to rob a store. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/46 "2025-11-01T02:04:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > When his “friend” came out of the drug store he yelled, “Drive, drive, I shot a man! Drive, drive, I shot a man!” (this phrase still plays in my mind). At that point he knew that his friend had shot someone. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/47 "2025-11-03T23:09:35Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yes, he says he didn’t know they were going to rob a store. Strange that a criminal would plead ignorance _and_ innocence. I’m sure he’s the first. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152/48 "2025-11-05T00:48:45Z")
It’s not impossible. There have been people wrongly convicted before. Not saying I believe him. But I can’t find any information about him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-was-this-christian-speaker-i-saw-as-a-kid-ex-con-more-details-inside/819152.md?page=2)