# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/462 "2024-07-15T21:24:30Z")
National Review, at least in this article, is negative about the Vance pick: > **[The Opportunity for Democrats in the Vance Pick | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-opportunity-for-democrats-in-the-vance-pick/)** > > Democrats were disoriented by the attempted assassination of the former president, but Vance’s selection will help them recover their balance. ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/463 "2024-07-15T21:30:06Z")
Vance. I hate that asshole. But he’ll clinch the hillbilly vote. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/464 "2024-07-15T21:37:13Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > This is a huge gift to the Dems–thank you! Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/465 "2024-07-15T21:40:00Z")
> Lincoln famously did not grow a beard until he was running for president in 1860 at the age of 51… 🤦‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/466 "2024-07-15T21:42:29Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > There was no contest- J.D. went for the frenulum. Google searches for frenulum must have had a big spike. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/467 "2024-07-15T21:47:13Z")
Worth saying that for an average US man who is 79 years old now, he has about a 27% chance of death over the next four years and a life expectancy of 8 years. Does this make Vance look better or worse? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/468 "2024-07-15T22:00:56Z")
Vance openly wants a dictatorship, so… ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/469 "2024-07-15T22:05:08Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > This is a huge gift to the Dems–thank you! I think that’s getting carried away, if only because the VP pick has at most a minor impact on the outcome of the election. He’s no Sarah Palin where it was obvious to all near and far that she was in over her head. He’s smart and will have no trouble modulating his message to the needs of the campaign (and simply walking away from any past statements that may conflict). I don’t think he’s going to make much difference to an election that will be determined by forces much larger than him. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/470 "2024-07-15T22:06:15Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > Will impact the states behind the supposed “blue wall” that collapsed for Hillary. Upper Mid-West states of Michigan, Wisconsin, probably Illinois outside of Chicago. WHAT? I’ve always had trouble understanding why geography would be so important… “Gee, I’d vote for Trump, but only if his VP was from a state less than three states away from mine. Issues? Character? Nope. I just care if I can drive to their hometown in a day.” ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/471 "2024-07-15T22:10:54Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Poor Tim Scott, licking DJT’s boots for years for nothing. They will throw him a bone like Secretary of Education then order him to destroy the department. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/472 "2024-07-15T22:11:25Z")
Because of his book? He was a VC in San Francisco making a ton of money before he wrote that. He also set up a fake non-profit in Ohio to grift the rubes. He’s not a hillbilly himself. He doesn’t even pretend to talk like the hoi polloi. Trump already had the deplorables wrapped up, so what can Vance add? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/473 "2024-07-15T22:15:04Z")
I’m surprised but not shocked. Not shocked because I just knew trump was going to chose the worst one. Surprised because I thought trump would recognize the avarice in Vance. If I was trump, I wouldn’t take any unwrapped burgers from that fella. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/474 "2024-07-15T22:21:01Z")
When I see beards like his, or Don Jr’s, my mind immediately jumps to the Commanders in _The Handmaid’s Tale_. I suppose some like that kind of look, but it could backfire with women voters. If he keeps it, it’s a signal of a sort. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/475 "2024-07-15T22:34:00Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > I think that’s getting carried away, if only because the VP pick has at most a minor impact on the outcome of the election. It will have about as negative an impact as it possibly can, so I think it’s actually a pretty big gift. He not only does the ticket no good; he will be very, very easy to use in campaign materials. And instead of deflecting from the Trump brand of crazy and odious, he magnifies it. What could be worse for the fascist party in this case?! > [@](#): > > He’s no Sarah Palin where it was obvious to all near and far that she was in over her head. Any MAGAite makes Palin look like an altruistic, caring, fun-loving figure with a positive vision for America’s future. Vance is just plain _threatening_ in the way that Bannon, Gorka, and Miller are. > [@](#): > > He’s smart and will have no trouble modulating his message to the needs of the campaign (and simply walking away from any past statements that may conflict). Hahaha, he called Trump “America’s Hitler” and went into detail about how he hated and despised the fucker. You can’t modulate away from that! > [@](#): > > I don’t think he’s going to make much difference to an election that will be determined by forces much larger than him. I actually think the difference will be palpable and significant. I feel much better about the election today than I did yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/476 "2024-07-15T22:39:51Z")
Oh, and my friend just pointed out that Vance’s wife is Indian. So more leverage in the campaign re racism, birthright citizenship, etc. etc. E.g., “Your own wife is Indian, so how can you support so much xenophobic shit, dumbfuck?!?!” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/477 "2024-07-15T22:58:46Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > Will impact the states behind the supposed “blue wall” that collapsed for Hillary. Upper Mid-West states of Michigan, Wisconsin, probably Illinois outside of Chicago. As already noted there is no reason to believe Vance will automatically help in these states. And just to note, Illinois outside of the Chicago metro area is already solidly red. Problem is, 2/3 of the population lives in the Chicago metro area. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/478 "2024-07-15T23:01:44Z")
Worse, I would think. He’s a pup. He’s not yet 40 and has two years in the Senate. Is that the right person to take over if Trump dropped dead? This is a Quayle/Palin type pick. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/479 "2024-07-15T23:22:48Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/480 "2024-07-15T23:28:13Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Oh, and my friend just pointed out that Vance’s wife is Indian. So more leverage in the campaign re racism, birthright citizenship, etc. etc. E.g., “Your own wife is Indian, so how can you support so much xenophobic shit, dumbfuck?!?!” Is his wife here legally? Because that card could just as easily work the other way. MAGAs often say “We aren’t against immigration, we’re against ILLEGAL immigration.” (Whether they actually mean this or not is a different question.) So if the Ds use that argument against Vance, I could imagine it being flipped back instantly. In fact, many of the people in America who oppose illegal immigration the most are **non-white people who came here legally.** ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/481 "2024-07-15T23:32:49Z")
You’re assuming they’re logical or consistent about it. If they were, then they’d want Trump’s wife deported. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=25)