# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/682 "2024-07-24T23:51:53Z")
You would think that paying for other people’s kids to get an education would be enough. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/683 "2024-07-24T23:52:28Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > What is Vance’s obsession with people with children? Same as Musk’s, 14 little words. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/684 "2024-07-25T01:35:38Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Nick Fuentes, the well-known white supremacist and Trump supporter, and weirdly chummy with Kanye West, is quoted in the article. > > > This guy has a non-white wife and a kid named Vivek. This guy is going to be a defender of white identity? I don’t think so. This guy is going to defend ‘American identity?’ > > If there’s any justice in the world this will turn into a groundswell of controversy on the right claiming that Vance is not a true ‘MAGA’. Come on Republicans, kick him out of the tent you know you want to. but then again … a white supremacist with a last name of FUENTES? you can’t make $hit like that up on the spot … thats like propagandaminister of nazi germany, Herr Shlomi Beitelman-Cohen ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/685 "2024-07-25T02:19:10Z")
What stops a Spaniard from being a white supremacist? Go to Spain or Argentina sometime and you’ll see plenty of them. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/686 "2024-07-25T03:40:18Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Vance: “Let’s give votes to all children in this country I immediately think of Logan’s Run. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/687 "2024-07-25T05:08:09Z")
I get that weirdos gonna be weird,and whipping up the crazies with a fresh injection of hate is always the point with extremists, but could the reality that plenty of republican women (outside the low rent Stepford wives that populate the Maga bunker )are single or childless by choice ( or physical reasons) possibly not occured to him? Don’t both parties need every vote they can get? I’m thrilled that J.D. continues to show his ass but I’m also puzzled. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/688 "2024-07-25T10:06:13Z")
More from Kos on the suckage that is JDV: > **[JD Vance is a huge drag on the GOP ticket—and it's only going to get worse](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/24/2257639/-JD-Vance-is-a-huge-drag-on-the-GOP-ticket-and-it-s-only-going-to-get-worse?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_9&pm_medium=web)** > > Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick is backfiring on him—big time. Appearing on CNN’s “Erin Burnett OutFront” Tuesday evening, data analyst Harry Enten dug into the polling and found bad ... Btw, it doesn’t seem that Bush is cited as being underwater in 1980. It seems that the researcher only went _back_ to 1980, and JDV is the only guy who has been underwater since then: **I have gone all the way back since 1980. He is the first guy immediately following a convention—a VP pick—who actually had a net negative favorable rating, that is underwater,” Enten told Burnett.** ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/689 "2024-07-25T11:19:07Z")
I’d love for someone to put up billboards in Appalachia with quotes from his book, and print signs for protestors to hold up outside of his rallies. Including: > The message of the right is increasingly: It’s not your fault that you’re a loser; it’s the government’s fault. > There is a cultural movement in the white working class to blame problems on society or the government, and that movement gains adherents by the day. > To this day, I find the very notion of pajamas an unnecessary elite indulgence > There is no group of Americans more pessimistic than working-class whites. > We talk about the value of hard work but tell ourselves that the reason we’re not working is some perceived unfairness: Obama shut down the coal mines, or all the jobs went to the Chinese. These are the lies we tell ourselves > “Never be like these fucking losers who think the deck is stacked against them,” my grandma often told me. > To this day, being able to “take advantage” of someone is the measure in my mind of having a parent. > the deeper I immersed myself in evangelical theology, the more I felt compelled to mistrust many sectors of society. Evolution and the Big Bang became ideologies to confront, not theories to understand. > Nothing compares to the fear that you’re becoming the monster in your closet. Not all of these are golden, but they paint a picture that’s pretty different from what he’s trying to paint. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/690 "2024-07-25T13:26:17Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > To this day, I find the very notion of pajamas an unnecessary elite indulgence I’m not sure this is going to offend anyone. Who cares? (quote from Vance, not LHOD) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/691 "2024-07-25T13:36:35Z")
It’s not that it’s offensive. It’s to underline the fact that the guy is a fuckin’ weirdo _on top of_ being a hateful asshat. That’s how I read it, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/692 "2024-07-25T13:49:28Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Do Christians have big families? Let me introduce you to the [Quiverfull movement](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull). There is a LOT of campaign money to court in the Christian nationalist sector, and that’s exactly the type of dog whistle that he’s trying to pull off. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/693 "2024-07-25T13:55:32Z")
Not for nothing, but I haven’t owned a set of pajamas since I was 12 years old. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/694 "2024-07-25T13:55:39Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m not sure this is going to offend anyone. Who cares? He’s basically calling anyone who wears pajamas an elitist. I am not always a pajamas wearer, but that elicits a, “Hey, fuck you too, buddy!” reaction from me. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/695 "2024-07-25T14:00:45Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Not for nothing, but I haven’t owned a set of pajamas since I was 12 years old. Same here. Sometimes I become concerned that I might be one of those evil liberal elites I keep hearing about. Good to find out that I’m a common man of the people 😆 ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/696 "2024-07-25T14:04:13Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > > > Do Christians have big families? > > Let me introduce you to the [Quiverfull movement](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull). > > There is a LOT of campaign money to court in the Christian nationalist sector, and that’s exactly the type of dog whistle that he’s trying to pull off. Creepy, but are christians obeying? I wear pajamas because I’m cold. So there. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/697 "2024-07-25T14:49:02Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Creepy, but are christians obeying? I know a fair number of evangelical Christians, and big families really are pretty common, whether or not they consider themselves to be Quiverfull adherents. The Duggars, of _19 Kids and Counting_ fame, are an extreme example. FWIW, when I read Vance’s comment about giving kids voting suffrage, but placing the votes of minors under the control of their parents, it sounded exactly to me like he was talking to evangelicals. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/698 "2024-07-25T17:31:10Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > FWIW, when I read Vance’s comment about giving kids voting suffrage, but placing the votes of minors under the control of their parents, it sounded exactly to me like he was talking to evangelicals. Joke’s on them. In two generations we’ll be a Mormon and Orthodox Jewish country. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/699 "2024-07-25T17:34:35Z")
I saw a clip of him talking about how he’s called racist, “I had a Diet Mountain Dew yesterday and one today, and I’m sure they’re going to call that racist too.” That’s weird, though aren’t diet drinks considered unmanly somehow? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/700 "2024-07-25T17:44:17Z")
I think that the logic, such as it is, is Mountain Dew is associated with moonshine, and moonshine is associated with hillbillies, and Democrats call everything associated with hillbillies racist. But I mean, any one of those associations is awfully tenuous, and all the more so when you string all three together. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/701 "2024-07-25T17:52:15Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think that the logic, such as it is, is Mountain Dew is associated with moonshine, and moonshine is associated with hillbillies, and Democrats call everything associated with hillbillies racist. Even that’s pretty tortured, as you note. When Mountain Dew was first introduced, their advertising had a “hillbilly/moonshine” focus (see below); after Pepsi bought the brand (in 1964), they quickly went away from that. Those old hillbilly ads are 60 years old now, and the brand has been associated with youth, extreme sports, and video gaming for decades. Anyone under the age of 50 is likely to be completely unfamiliar with the brand’s original positioning. I think it was just Vance trying for “the Democrats will say that _anything_, no matter how benign, is racist.” [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/ba/0f/eeba0faa071681b19ac3cf6c57687c1d.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/ba/0f/eeba0faa071681b19ac3cf6c57687c1d.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=36)