# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/702 "2024-07-25T17:55:26Z")
I was in college about forty years ago and Mountain Dew was the thing to drink if you needed to stay up late. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/703 "2024-07-25T17:56:32Z")
Is that a child… smoking a corn cob pipe? I mean, I know it was a long time ago, but still… FWIW I am 51 and was well aware of their old hilbilly marketing, I remember their 70s and 80s marketing that was all ziplines, waterskiing, and jumping into quarries. But NOW I think of them as favorite of the meth crowd. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/704 "2024-07-25T18:07:18Z")
“All your questions about my couch-fucking have already been answered in the retracted Associated Press article which denied my couch-fucking.” > ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/705 "2024-07-25T18:17:34Z")
What’s the backstory there? Did someone at the AP plant the story? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/706 "2024-07-25T18:25:41Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > > > If Vance starts getting widely ridiculed he’ll be “asked” to step down. > > But what if he doesn’t? He’s got as big an ego as any of the rest of them, and he knows that Trump can’t force him out. … If Thiel and Musk decide that their darling’s presence on the ticket means that Kamala Harris will win—and all their dreams of being the Top Oligarchs in Trump’s autocracy are going bye-bye—then they will have NO trouble pushing the idea that Vance has a secret plan to _ **pay REPARATIONS.** _ Nothing else could be so effective in getting all of MAGA—not just the ultra-white-supremacists unhappy about Vance’s Indian-background wife—to reject him. Calls for Vance to step down will carry the weight of armed fanatics willing to… take care of him, if he doesn’t step down. He’ll step down. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/707 "2024-07-25T18:30:54Z")
Isn’t part of the convention to nominate the presidential and vice presidential candidates? So how can Vance be replaced after? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/708 "2024-07-25T18:32:40Z")
So is the consensus here that Vance isn’t going to make it to the ticket? Because I think he’s already become too much of a burden to keep. It’s going to be SWEET to see this spineless nazi fuck given the boot! (Too bad he will continue to disgrace the senate…) ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/709 "2024-07-25T18:33:10Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Isn’t part of the convention to nominate the presidential and vice presidential candidates? So how can Vance be replaced after? From my post above: > [@Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/629): > > Not to beat a dead horse, but specifically Rule 9 of the Rules of the Republican Party provides that: (a) The Republican National Committee is hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise of the Republican candidate for President of the United States or the Republican candidate for Vice President of the United States, as nominated by the national convention, or the Republican National Committee may reconvene the nati… ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/710 "2024-07-25T18:34:48Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Isn’t part of the convention to nominate the presidential and vice presidential candidates? So how can Vance be replaced after? Probably already noted upthread, but the RNC already has rules in place to replace a nominee in case of a vacancy (i.e., the nominee steps down, dies, or is incapacitated). If Trump decided he just wanted to fire Vance (and Vance refused to step aside on his own), Trump very well could get the RNC to amend their rules to allow for it. And, as has also previously been noted, the Democrats had this exact thing happen in 1972, when their VP nominee, Thomas Eagleton, stepped aside a few weeks after the convention, after it came to light that he had undergone psychiatric care (electroshock therapy for depression). Eagleton withdrew at the request of the presidential nominee, George McGovern, and was replaced on the ticket with Sargent Shriver. _Edit: @flurb shared the post with the RNC rule while I was typing._ ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/711 "2024-07-25T18:43:55Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think that the logic, such as it is, is Mountain Dew is associated with moonshine, and moonshine is associated with hillbillies, and Democrats call everything associated with hillbillies racist. But I mean, any one of those associations is awfully tenuous, and all the more so when you string all three together. Mountain Dew features prominently as a NASCAR sponsor and NASCAR is very white and very southern. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/712 "2024-07-25T18:58:26Z")
I didn’t grow up poor but I did grow up in a very rural area where the choices were Coke and Pepsi. Mountain Dew was like the kid’s drink - like a rebellious thing - and the hillbilly imagery was about as offensive as Deputy Dawg. I dragged it with me into adulthood because I was addicted to it by then and it contributed to me being overweight for most of my 20’s … but I digress. I always kind of saw it as a novelty soda … with a cartoon sensibility. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/713 "2024-07-25T19:04:24Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > If he were to be replaced now, it would be a show of weakness by Trump; he _made a mistake_. > > Barring some unknown scandal (and we know how high the bar for a shocking Republican scandal has been raised), I just don’t see Trump replacing Vance. That would be admitting to a flaw in his thinking. I can’t help but feel that he’d feel he’s fine. Picture it: he stands up in front of everybody and says, hey, I reasoned — correctly — that Trump/Vance would be the best ticket to run against Biden/Harris; but, as you all now know, I beat Joe Biden so badly in the debate that he wound up dropping out. So, now that they’ve swapped in a new ticket, I’m swapping in a new one in response; and if they change their ticket again — like if _Kamala_ drops out, right after I beat _her_ in a debate — I’ll consider another swap. I mean, _I’m_ always the right answer; but any time they change their ticket in hopes of losing by less, I’m willing to change mine to win by more. And we’ve got to win by plenty, because if I win and it’s close they’ll try to steal this one from me like they did in 2020, amirite? Can you imagine him (a) saying something like that, while (b) pronouncing “Kamala” wrong? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/714 "2024-07-25T19:11:54Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I think it was just Vance trying for “the Democrats will say that _anything_, no matter how benign, is racist.” Exactly this. Obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/715 "2024-07-25T19:14:07Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Mountain Dew features prominently as a NASCAR sponsor and NASCAR is very white and very southern. OK, that’s two tenuous connections, instead of three. As for replacing him, the RNC has rules to replace him if he voluntarily steps down. But why would he do that? Part of the reason Biden’s stepping aside blindsided the Republicans so hard is that the concept of someone willingly giving up power for the benefit of others is so completely alien to them. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/716 "2024-07-25T19:44:43Z")
A big day on Google Trends for the sofa-curious. [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%201-m&geo=US&q=Vance%20couch&hl=en](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%201-m&geo=US&q=Vance%20couch&hl=en) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/717 "2024-07-25T19:50:38Z")
Just from watching clips of J D Vance at rallies after the convention, he’s not a good speaker. Completely lacking in any kind of charisma or appeal. I wonder how he was elected to the US Senate. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/718 "2024-07-25T20:04:29Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I wonder how he was elected to the US Senate. Trump endorsed him, both in the primary, and in the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/719 "2024-07-25T20:06:40Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I wonder how he was elected to the US Senate. Barely. In a pretty red state he managed only 53% of the vote. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/720 "2024-07-25T20:08:51Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > In a pretty red state he managed only 53% of the vote. IMO, Ohio is only marginally red, though it’s probably just a bit too red to really be a swing state anymore. Trump only got 53% of the vote there in 2020, and 52% in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/721 "2024-07-25T20:24:18Z")
So, who wants to predict the over/under timeline for Vance’s Under-Bussing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=37)