# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/782 "2024-07-26T17:52:46Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Serious question: Does the rumor say how old Vance was? I’m more concerned about how old the couch was. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/783 "2024-07-26T17:55:26Z")
The couch story doesn’t need to go mainstream to cause damage. Better than going mainstream, it’s gone viral, and, much like the Santorum off yesteryear, it continues to spread. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/784 "2024-07-26T17:56:05Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Vance is sucking all of the O2 out of the Orange Revenant’s hyperbaric chamber and is a daily source of embarrassment for the campaign. Do you think that Trump can stand losing all of the attention and having all of the transferred attention be negative? I have my doubts about that! Vance is fucking terrible, but these rose-colored predictions are sounding a lot like your dissertations that Trump’s health was deteriorating so fast it would crater his campaign and he wouldn’t be the nominee for long, or that he would back out of the June debate. Neither of those massive game-changers happened, and I don’t think Vance is going anywhere either, despite whatever Ben whatshisname says. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/785 "2024-07-26T17:57:03Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I don’t think Vance will be bounced. I think it would do too much damage, and it would take away the argument that Harris’ nomination is illegitimate. I think he will be bounced. All I’m not sure of is if I should renew my Stefanik prediction. As for the argument that Harris is illegitimate, in order to believe this, you have to believe that Biden’s cognitive state is both good and steady. The only people who believe this are committed Democrats (and not all of them). Throwing away that weak argument is no loss. Biden said he dropped out to unify his party. Trump now faces a similar situation: [Some House Republicans slam Vance as Trump’s VP pick](https://thehill.com/homenews/4793818-vance-vp-trump-house-republicans/) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/786 "2024-07-26T18:02:27Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I think he will be bounced. One problem is that Vance trashed trump, until he started sucking up to him for his own political gain. If he’s pushed aside, I think there’s a risk to Trump that he starts trashing him again. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/787 "2024-07-26T18:02:55Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I have not seen such a terrible candidate/ad in years. Not since Romney have I seen such a lack of charisma. He was probably distracted. Look at what’s in the background. A big, plush chair covered in sexy red vinyl. I challenge any man to keep his thoughts straight when he’s in the room with this amazing piece of furniture: [![](https://i.imgur.com/buOKvhJ.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/buOKvhJ.png) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/788 "2024-07-26T18:03:08Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > As noted multiple times, it will be perceived as dysfunctional and weak. Make it an old story as soon as you can. I still figure Trump would try to spin it as, uh, functional and strong: stating that, when the Democrats were putting up a Biden/Harris ticket, he concluded that the best person to run against Biden is — of course — _Trump himself_; and, oh, against Harris, the best person would be Vance. And then he’d add that, since the Democrats had to drop Joe Biden after that trouncing in the debate, why, the best person to run against Harris turns out to be — checks notes — _Trump himself,_ but the best person to counter Shapiro (or whoever) is Haley (or whoever). And then he’d add that, if the Democrats _again_ change their ticket — maybe after another debate debacle — well, gosh: he’ll then decide which Republican ticket has the best odds of winning against whomever the Dems are running this week. Spoiler alert: Trump will turn out to be the best choice for the top of the ticket, but whether X or Y or Z gets touted as having the best shot at neutralizing the Dem VP pick depends on who that is. Could he sell that? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/789 "2024-07-26T18:05:20Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I still figure Trump would try to spin it as, uh, functional and strong… Oh, sure. He’d definitely spin it in a positive, manly man, powerful manner. He’d try, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/790 "2024-07-26T18:08:06Z")
There’s no way Trump is going to drop Vance at this point. And you can trust me because I told you there was no way Biden was going to drop out either. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/791 "2024-07-26T18:15:02Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I have not seen such a terrible candidate/ad in years. That ad is incredible on many levels. The two that stuck out to me most are: 1. He insults the hospitality that he is provided at campaign events as “crap.” And says he doesn’t eat much of it because it would make him fat. He is literally insulting his hosts. 2. He then says that this very “crap” is what powers the campaign. Yes, the campaign is powered by crap. I could go even more into the poor audio and oddly low-res video, but I’m still laughing too hard at the two points above. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/792 "2024-07-26T18:21:20Z")
Guys, is there any chance he was just trying to be self-deprecating? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/793 "2024-07-26T18:28:39Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > There’s no way Trump is going to drop Vance at this point. And you can trust me because I told you there was no way Biden was going to drop out either. Good one. Normally, it’s smart to predict an unusual event won’t happen. And when it does happen, it’s even smarter to predict it won’t occur again. I’ve predicted Trump will bounce Vance, but I have very low confidence ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/794 "2024-07-26T18:38:37Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Guys, is there any chance he was just trying to be self-deprecating? Trying? Yeah, that’s probably what he was trying to do. Succeeding? Absolutely not. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/795 "2024-07-26T18:44:28Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > I’m more concerned about how old the couch was. LMFAO! ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/796 "2024-07-26T18:45:25Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Mountain Dew is a dog whistle. It’s huge in Appalachia, and takes its name from a slang for moonshine. Vance has been talking about how he loves diet Mountain Dew, and he doesn’t care that he might get attacked for that from the left. If anybody has any doubts about Appalachian loyalty to Diet Dew, look what happened to KY Gov. Beshear: > Beshear, in a CNN interview, called the comment “weird” and added: “Who drinks Diet Mountain Dew?” > > On Thursday he retreated — but only a little bit. > > “Folks, I’ve been a person that when sometimes I’ve gone over the line, I’ve wanted to make sure that I set the record straight, so, I do owe an apology to Diet Mountain Dew,” Beshear said. > [Soda Pop Wars: Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear apologizes for barb, but not to Sen. JD Vance | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/beshear-vance-mountain-dew-hillbilly-elegy-e37a6b74c82d93f031cdea198c2498af) ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/797 "2024-07-26T19:05:01Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Vance is fucking terrible, but these rose-colored predictions are sounding a lot like your dissertations that Trump’s health was deteriorating so fast it would crater his campaign and he wouldn’t be the nominee for long, or that he would back out of the June debate. I’ll own my predictions and take the L on those. But people in the media were making the same speculations, especially about Trump not debating. Where I was _really, really_ wrong was about Biden being up for that debate and never considering once that he’d end up dropping out as he has. But it’s a case of bad luck turning into best luck. Trump’s health _is_ terrible. In the past week, he’s had aphasia issues indicative of dementia, such as not being able to think of the word “abortion” at all for a minute. The dude is like human shawarma at this point, with orange oozy slices just falling off him. I still would not be surprised if he simply collapsed or died before the election. > [@](#): > > Neither of those massive game-changers happened, and I don’t think Vance is going anywhere either, despite whatever Ben whatshisname says. That’s overconfidence on your part. First of all, I _immediately_ said in the relevant thread that Vance was the worst possible pick and would be a disaster. People were arguing against me. My prediction actually came true this time–even faster and with much greater magnitude than even I had thought possible. Can I get credit for that? Lots of people in the media are now speculating that Trump will dump his ass. It’s not really a question of whether Trump is suffering because of his pick. It’s wholly a question of what kind of suffering Trump prefers: the train wreck in a time loop of keeping Vance, or taking the L on having chosen Vance. Knowing Trump, the latter pick is more palatable, since that ends the pain, and he can blame the pick on Vance’s poor performance as well as the bad advice of others. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/798 "2024-07-26T19:47:06Z")
All that you say is correct, and I would add this: Vance himself just seems soooo flimsy and amateurish. He’s like a high school “bruh” fist-bumping and chuckling over classroom antics. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/799 "2024-07-26T19:57:34Z")
As said upthread, Trump CAN NOT “dump” Vance. Vance was nominated by the delegates at the RNC. Trump will have to convince Vance to drop out and decline the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/800 "2024-07-26T20:11:10Z")
All that has to happen is the RNC changes its rules re: replacing the VP, and I’m quite certain Trump can dictate this. There’s nothing realistic preventing Trump from kicking Vance to the curb, even if ol’ JD decides not to play along. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/801 "2024-07-26T20:44:14Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > As said upthread, Trump CAN NOT “dump” Vance. Vance was nominated by the delegates at the RNC. > > Trump will have to convince Vance to drop out and decline the nomination. There’s no reason why the GOP couldn’t reconvene the delegates to the convention virtually as the Democrats are doing next week. Then they could revisit the VP nomination. The other option would be to take advantage of the rule saying they can replace vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or “otherwise.” Maybe they declare the VP nomination vacant after Vance can’t be found for a couple days after having been shoved into van. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=41)