# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
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Interesting piece on Usha Vance:

> **[The One Thing You Need to Know to Understand Usha Vance](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/jd-vance-wife-usha-vance-politics-amy-chua.html)**
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> Usha Vance isn’t a mystery.

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Vance also once touted the notion that [parents should have more voting power](https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/jd-vance-parents-more-votes-childless-rcna163670) than people who don’t have kids.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/964 "2024-07-30T13:20:51Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yeah, let us do that, instead of making up bullshit.

Unlike LBJ? Sure, it’s never been verified, but it’s one of those stories that has legs because people could see LBJ saying it:

> [Maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t](https://washingtonmonthly.com/2006/09/25/did-he-or-didnt-he/?utm_source=lindynewsletter.beehiiv.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=never-deny-a-rumor), but the legend goes like this:

> Former President Lyndon B. Johnson was in a tough congressional race and decided to hit his opponent with a nasty a rumor, that the guy’s a pig-fucker. His campaign manager was shocked, he tried to pull him back, he says, “Lyndon, you know he doesn’t do that!” But Johnson shoots back, “I know. I just want to make him deny it.”

> **[Never Deny a Rumor](https://lindynewsletter.beehiiv.com/p/never-deny-rumor)**

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/965 "2024-07-30T13:28:49Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance):
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> - He was born James Donald Bowman, the son of Donald Bowman and Beverly Carol (nee Vance).
> - After being adopted by his stepfather (his mother’s third husband) when JD was young, his mother legally changed his name to James David Hamel – this gave him his adoptive father’s surname, while his middle name was apparently changed to get rid of his biological father’s first name (Donald), while maintaining his nickname, JD.
> - As an adult (at ~age 28, around the time he graduated from Yale Law School), he changed his surname to Vance, which was the surname of his maternal grandparents, who had helped to raise him.
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> A little convoluted, but nothing particularly strange, IMO, and it’s likely that only the final name change, to Vance, was something he had any input on.

Agreed, doesn’t seem unusual.

Actually reminded me of two presidents:

Gerald Ford, born Leslie Lynch King Jr:

> After living with her parents for two and a half years, on February 1, 1917, Gardner married [Gerald Rudolff Ford](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Rudolff_Ford), a salesman in a family-owned paint and varnish company. Though never formally adopted, her young son was referred to as Gerald Rudolff Ford Jr. from then on; the [name change](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_change) was formalized on December 3, 1935.[[12]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford#cite_note-utexas-12)

Bill Clinton, born William Jefferson Blythe III:

> On August 19, 1946, three months after Blythe’s death, Virginia gave birth to their only child, William Jefferson Blythe III. Bill, as a teen, took his stepfather’s surname and became known as [Bill Clinton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton), the future [42nd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States) [president of the United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States).

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Should we change the name of this thread, since it seems to have become the “Screw J.D. Vance” thread?

We’re not dolphins.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/967 "2024-07-30T13:55:03Z")

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I respect that he wants porpoise in his life.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/968 "2024-07-30T14:35:58Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Gerald Ford, born Leslie Lynch King Jr:

I’d want a change from that name too, admittedly.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/969 "2024-07-30T14:41:30Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> I respect that he wants porpoise in his life.

Yeah, we should bottle(nose) all that right now.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/970 "2024-07-30T16:39:24Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Gerald Ford, born Leslie Lynch King Jr:

It’s never good when your name is easily turned into a sentence (add a comma after Leslie)

I went to High School with a guy whose first name was Neal and his last name rhymed with a homophobic slur (not sure if it’s appropriate to actually post it).

Oddly, he was a pretty popular guy. But he still got teased about that name.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/971 "2024-07-30T16:47:12Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Actually, the couch story is the most believable out of all of them, and even if it’s true, it’s probably nothing a lot of other young boys haven’t done (GROSS!)

The remarkable part of the couch story isn’t the claim that he did it. It’s the claim that he bragged about it.

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Hey, it’s not like he bragged about doing something horrible to a dog like tying it to the top of the car on a long road trip or shooting it in a quarry.

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GOP Senator Lisa Murkowski called out Vance on his “childless cat lady” comment today, saying, “To be so derogatory in this way is offensive to me as a woman.”

[https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/30/congress/murkowski-critical-vance-cat-lady-trump-republicans-senate-00171864](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/30/congress/murkowski-critical-vance-cat-lady-trump-republicans-senate-00171864)

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/974 "2024-07-30T18:27:23Z")

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LOL! 2x

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The remarkable part of the couch story isn’t the claim that he did it. It’s the claim that he bragged about it.

Oh, me so horny, me seat you long time!

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Moderating:

> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Oh, me so horny, me seat you long time!

This is completely inappropriate. It’s sexist, racist and misogynistic. Knock it off.

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> <https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1818281948403687674>

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/978 "2024-07-30T21:00:55Z")

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How much more stuff does this guy have out there? A lot, I bet.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/979 "2024-07-30T21:01:51Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Unearthed video: JD Vance says people who don’t have children are “sociopathic,” “psychotic,” and “deranged”  
> [x.com](https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1818281948403687674)

Yeah, thank goodness the Founders didn’t let people like that psycho George Washington anywhere near this country of ours!

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Wow. That one is especially bad. Wait, just as bad. Whatever, this weirdo was quite a choice for the ticket. I assume the Joker wasn’t available.

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As an old, straight, white, childless male, this is one of the few times I feel like a politician has attacked my demographic. I wonder how this is playing with childless Republicans.

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