# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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I think he’ll make it into a pocket lining effort: Vivek, how much will you give me to be VP? Lake, how about you?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/82 "2024-01-24T16:10:20Z")

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Which recently cost Ron DeSantis _his_ shot:

> **[That didn't last long. Ron DeSantis kills bid to have Florida pay Donald...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/01/23/ron-desantis-kills-florida-effort-to-pay-donald-trumps-legal-bills/72321588007/)**
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> A little more than a day after dropping out of the presidential race and endorsing Trump, DeSantis killed any effort by Florida lawmakers to have taxpayers pay the former president's legal bills.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/83 "2024-01-24T17:56:58Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Trump’s a showman. I expect him to choose his VP by shouting “(Whoever!) You’re hired!” His circus will keep rolling, and the poor animals will suffer.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he had all the candidates compete for the position on a reality show that he profits off of.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/84 "2024-01-24T18:23:06Z")

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The Orange Ticket? The Apprentice (President)?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/85 "2024-01-24T18:24:38Z")

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The (Next) Pence-tice?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/86 "2024-01-24T18:32:39Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I don’t think it’s ONLY wishful thinking, or an absolute non-zero chance that he’ll pick Jr, but I still think it _less_ likely than the other options.

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Sure, he might still talk himself into it, but at least some of the people he listens too (and Fox News, et al) will point out that weakness (if in the most flattering terms possible).

I’m with you on this. I suspect he’d love to pick Don Jr. for sycophancy and legacy reasons, but the smarter people around him will understand that this would look terrible to the average voter and would likely cost him votes, even among GOP voters. (Those who are not already in the bad for Trump, that is. MAGA zealots will vote for him even with the corpse of Jeffrey Epstein as his running mate).

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/87 "2024-01-24T18:53:25Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Those who are not already in the bad for Trump, that is.

ISWYDT.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/88 "2024-01-24T20:43:55Z")

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DeSantis was never going to be his running mate because they’re both Florida residents.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/89 "2024-01-25T01:04:26Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Trump’s ideal pick would be no one. He doesn’t want to share and he doesn’t want to admit he is mortal and susceptible to illness and death.

For that reason I think there is only one man of the job. [John Barron](https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/11/04/donald-trump-used-the-pseudonym-john-barron-throughout-the-80s.html).

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/90 "2024-01-25T02:56:34Z")

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I can’t imagine Trump wanting to run with DeSantis, but if he did he could just pull a Cheney and move his ‘residence’ to NY or NJ.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/91 "2024-01-25T03:35:47Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I can’t imagine Trump wanting to run with DeSantis, but if he did he could just pull a Cheney and move his ‘residence’ to NY or NJ

This is Trump. He’d refuse to be the one to move, even if he does have residences in other states. He’d insist DeSantis move out of Florida, even though he’s the Governor.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/92 "2024-01-25T12:53:34Z")

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People bring up the “can’t be from the same state” bit every time we talk about running mates. It’s easily disposed of by one or the other changing his/her state of residence. A minor technicality that would not impact the selection process.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/93 "2024-01-26T20:33:41Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> People bring up the “can’t be from the same state” bit every time we talk about running mates. It’s easily disposed of by one or the other changing his/her state of residence. A minor technicality that would not impact the selection process.

Well it’s not like it can’t be by law. It’s just former common sense that the candidate has his own state sown up and might need help in another region. That like many other things doesn’t apply to Trump. Regardless of where he hangs his comb over he’s still a New Yorker who will lose New York. Picking someone from Florida doesn’t make a difference.

Most likely it will be someone he likes and feels is loyal regardless of where they are from. Maybe his advisors can gently guide him to pick someone perceived to help get him elected like someone from a swing state or a woman.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/94 "2024-01-26T21:57:52Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Well it’s not like it can’t be by law.

[From the 12th Amendment:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Text)

_The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves._

This would mean that Florida electors can’t vote for Trump/ De Santis if they are both registered in Florida.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/95 "2024-01-26T21:58:04Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Well it’s not like it can’t be by law.

The issue is that the Constitution forbids electors from giving their vote to both a President and Vice President from their state. So, in the case of a Trump/DeSantis ticket, Florida would have to cast its Vice-Presidential votes for someone else. That could easily throw the Vice-Presidential election to a contingency election in the Senate.

But as @BobLibDem says, the issue is easily avoided by the VP candidate changing residence, which is what Dick Cheney did prior to the 2000 election.

edit: ninjaed by @Peter_Morris

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/96 "2024-01-27T16:57:15Z")

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It’s hard for me to believe after all the times he called Haley birdbrain, but [Mark Penn thinks Donald will pick a South Carolinian:](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/01/27/clinton-pollster-2024-00138163)

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> The Nikki Haley voters — a large percentage of them — are Never Trump. Will they, in the end, cave to Trump, or does Trump have a way of consolidating them? It seems to me that Trump almost _has_ to pick her as vice president. As a practical matter, she has all of the votes he needs to win. Nobody else will have put those votes or that coalition together. . . .
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> Trump has no choice. He could do her, or he could do Tim Scott.

Maybe Penn is correct. Trump needs to win in November or else he probably goes to prison. The way to assure a win is a pivot to the center, and picking Haley, or, if she refuses the supposed honor, maybe Scott, would signal that without being an issues flip-flop. As for not trusting Haley, he can’t trust any of them.

Then, I do find old articles like this:

[Mark Penn is wrong about literally everything](https://www.salon.com/2010/05/07/mark_penn_moron_nick_clegg/)

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Maybe his advisors can gently guide him

That is the funniest thing I’ve read today.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Not even Trump would do that. You might not like his choices for SCOTUS but they came from the usual places. Habba would probably get a resume padding job in the DOJ but not at the top.

W did it. What was her name again? Harriet something.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/99 "2024-01-28T12:20:01Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Asshole!

For that you need SCUBA. A snorkel won’t allow you to go that deep.

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> W did it. What was her name again? Harriet something.

[Harriet Miers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Miers), who served in two staff positions in GWB’s White House (and had previously been his personal attorney), before he nominated her for the Supreme Court; her nomination was quickly withdrawn.

One of the positions she held at the White House was as Staff Secretary; ironically, her successor in that position was Brett Kavanaugh.

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