# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1082 "2024-08-01T14:46:09Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> This is the same guy who stayed awake during a medical procedure to avoid having Mike Pence become President for a few minutes.

Well if Vance became President temporarily he could order Trump killed and be completely okay …

This group? I would be worried about that if I was Trump!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1083 "2024-08-01T15:05:06Z")

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JD Vance’s kids must _love_ this discussion about bi-raciality of Indians.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1084 "2024-08-01T15:32:28Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> JD Vance’s kids must _love_ this discussion about bi-raciality of Indians

As his kids are apparently 6 (or maybe 7), 4, and 2, they likely wouldn’t even understand it.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1085 "2024-08-01T15:45:07Z")

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We can’t bash the guy for being opposed to interracial marriage when he’s IN an interracial marriage. You have to be trying really hard to be offended if you consider that phrase equivalent to referring to a Black person as “colored”. There’s so many real reasons to dislike the guy, no need to make up new ones.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1086 "2024-08-01T21:03:45Z")

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We can bash him for being a hypocrite however: being in an interracial marriage while not pushing back on racist attacks against Harris.

Btw, the whole concept of race is stupid, but aren’t (weren’t?) Indians considered to be Caucasian? That’s where the Aryan race was supposed to come from, no?

But then I read on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial\_classification\_of\_Indian\_Americans:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_classification_of_Indian_Americans:)

**In 1923, the [Supreme Court](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States) decided in _[United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Bhagat_Singh_Thind)_ that while Indians were classified as [Caucasians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race) by anthropologists, people of Indian descent were not white by common American definition, and thus not eligible to citizenship.**

In any case, Usha is not going to be considered white enough by Vance’s nazi buddies.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1087 "2024-08-01T21:05:32Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Btw, the whole concept of race is stupid, but aren’t (weren’t?) Indians considered to be Caucasian?

Oh, no. The brits called them the N-word.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1088 "2024-08-01T21:07:12Z")

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Depends on which racist mythology you subscribe to. Some of the pseudoscientists who influenced Hitler’s ideology did point to India as the original home of the “Aryan” race.

Wait, this is a hijack, isn’t it? We should stop.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1089 "2024-08-01T21:12:45Z")

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Subtexts aside, though, the substance of Trump’s attack isn’t that mixed-race relationships or people are intrinsically bad, he’s saying (falsely, of course) that Harris has suddenly changed her racial self-identification in the recent past for opportunistic reasons.

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1090 "2024-08-02T13:37:59Z")

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I was so focused on the horrible things Vance was saying that I think I missed the big picture. The only elected office Vance has ever held is a Senate seat he has been in for less than two years and that was essentially bought for him. People are debating whether Pete Buttigieg has enough experience to be VP while meanwhile Vance has NO experience governing. There is a real chance if Trump is elected as the oldest president ever that we could end up with this totally inexperienced person as president. Just another reason to be terrified.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1091 "2024-08-02T13:50:43Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Btw, the whole concept of race is stupid, but aren’t (weren’t?) Indians considered to be Caucasian? That’s where the Aryan race was supposed to come from, no?

I agree, it’s very stupid, but hardly surprising. We’re talking about a country where, not all that long ago historically speaking, the _ **Irish** _ were considered by many to be genetically inferior undesirables.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1092 "2024-08-02T21:15:29Z")

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Yes, I’ve seen 19th century cartoons where they are represented as apelike beings. Not cool!

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1093 "2024-08-02T21:18:50Z")

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So I was watching this David Pakman video from today, and he says that JDV has lost 9 points of favorability in as many days. LMFAO! Plus, more videos have come out with the edgelord castigating childless people: [https://youtu.be/syOwtCGDzWQ?si=xjzTovosBroX\_0ET](https://youtu.be/syOwtCGDzWQ?si=xjzTovosBroX_0ET)

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1094 "2024-08-02T21:23:59Z")

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Even National Review seems to be turning on the campaign’s prospects, and they have never been particularly positive about JDV. Here’s an article from today:

> **[The Perils of Politics as Trolling | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-perils-of-politics-as-trolling/)**
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> Vance, and the GOP ticket, are now paying the price for the style of rhetoric adopted during the Trump era.

Trump isn’t even bothering to defend the guy at this point. When asked about the pick in an interview, Trump said that the VP pick usually doesn’t matter very much:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8Dcsbdg4jeU/maxresdefault.jpg "YIKES! Trump throws AWFUL VP UNDER THE BUS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dcsbdg4jeU)

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1095 "2024-08-02T22:36:52Z")

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The latest to turn on JD Vance? [JD Vance](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/02/jd-vance-vp-picks-00172526).

“My attitude is, [I don’t] really matter [to the election]…”  
-JD Vance

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1096 "2024-08-03T00:43:24Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> We’re talking about a country where, not all that long ago historically speaking, the _ **Irish** _ were considered by many to be genetically inferior undesirables.

No kidding. I’ve seen such historcal cartoons (will NOT link to any) and it’s not uncommon to see the Irish paired with blacks as shiftless, amoral subhumans.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1097 "2024-08-03T01:00:36Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I could see Trump forcing his VP pick to sign a waiver saying that in the event of Trump’s death, the VP does not become President.

Yup, that’s about the level of Constitutional knowledge that Trump has.

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JD Vance said if he had a secret family in Alaska with another woman he wouldn’t tell his wife Usha.

> <https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1819401515469267005?t=EhUN4In774aIWp0WRUZ9Mg&s=19>

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1099 "2024-08-03T03:21:35Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> JD Vance said if he had a secret family in Alaska with another woman he wouldn’t tell his wife Usha

Well, then it wouldn’t be a secret, now, would it?

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Sarah Palin has an opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2024, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1101 "2024-08-03T06:38:40Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> JD Vance said if he had a secret family in Alaska with another woman he wouldn’t tell his wife

What a freaking weirdo.

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