# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1142 "2024-08-05T23:18:15Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Weren’t both Walz and Vance enlisted men?

Yes, my bad.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1143 "2024-08-06T01:33:24Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Weren’t both Walz and Vance enlisted men?

Walz was a _command sergeant major._ Vance made it to corporal. The difference is truly vast.

Like 2nd Lieutenant vs a Colonel. E4 vs E9.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1144 "2024-08-06T01:47:59Z")

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_I looked it up and command sgt major is **better**._

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1145 "2024-08-06T01:59:52Z")

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And Kelly was a Navy Captain, combat pilot and a **Freakin’ Astronaut!**

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1146 "2024-08-06T02:02:22Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> and a **Freakin’ Astronaut!**

Maybe trump should ditch Vance for Elon Musk! Oh, wait – he’s not a native-born American. Never mind.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1147 "2024-08-06T02:03:25Z")

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And he’s just a Freaking, Astronaut (kinda)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1148 "2024-08-06T02:17:09Z")

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In other words, a space cadet.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1149 "2024-08-06T02:21:08Z")

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Elon Musk would be a great choice if Trump decides to dump Vance. Musk knows kung fu:

> **[Did Epstein Email Elon Musk About Kung Fu Practice with Maxwell?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/epstein-musk-maxwell-email/)**
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> We looked for the origins of a purported email exchange between convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and Tesla CEO Elon Musk about the latter purportedly attending "kung fu practice" with Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1150 "2024-08-06T02:32:55Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> and a **Freakin’ Astronaut!**

Ronny Chieng on the Daily Show envisioned a Kelly/JD debate “You wrote a memoir about your hillbilly family? That’s cool… I jacked off in space!”

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1151 "2024-08-06T09:34:12Z")

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I feel like trying to have a woman explain why childless people are bad doesn’t work. The idea is still bonkers, after all. And why bring this story up again?

> **[JD Vance’s Wife: My Husband Only Meant to Insult People Who Actively Choose...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/jd-vances-wife-childless-cat-ladies-spin)**
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> She did not touch on his claim that people who don’t have kids are more sociopathic.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1152 "2024-08-06T16:03:02Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> And why bring this story up again?

Trump probably demanded it. You may have noticed that, on rare occasions, he gets obsessed with a relatively minor stupid point, and can’t help but keep bringing it up over and over again, even if it makes him look weird and obsessed.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1153 "2024-08-06T16:26:19Z")

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And a certain segment of his followership (esp. the religious right) **does** think there is something _just wrong_ about the “childfree” life and some of the more hardcore do think less of not having children “of your own”.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1154 "2024-08-06T17:03:16Z")

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Oh, Hell yeah. As a hetero male, childless by choice, and married into a MAGA religious family, I can tell you this first hand. It’s a big part of why my wife’s relationship with her family is so bad.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1155 "2024-08-06T17:06:44Z")

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That sucks. On the other hand, such people wouldn’t vote for a DEMONcrat anyway, right?

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Walz was a _command sergeant major._ Vance made it to corporal. The difference is truly vast.
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> Like 2nd Lieutenant vs a Colonel. E4 vs E9.

But do you think _Trump_ knows the difference?!

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1157 "2024-08-06T17:13:08Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> But do you think _Trump_ knows the difference?!

Hardly.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1158 "2024-08-06T23:13:55Z")

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So, as for the thread title question:

I think Trump must be reasonably satisfied with Vance vs. Walz and will sick with Vance.

Anyone disagree?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1159 "2024-08-06T23:26:22Z")

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The varsity vs JV bit was generous. Vance is clearly not someone the country, including the MAGA base, wants to be the head of the country in a crisis. He is roughly nine points under on approval to disapproval.

And Trump is going to get increasingly frustrated at not getting the center of attention in the news. Dropping Vance after the DNC gets the focus.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1160 "2024-08-07T00:00:17Z")

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This bit’s hilarious to me, and makes me like Walz a lot more.

> **[Tim Walz Says He 'Can't Wait' to Debate JD Vance: 'That's if He's Willing to...](https://www.thewrap.com/tim-walz-kamala-harris-jd-vance-couch-joke-first-rally/)**
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> Tim Walz says he "can't wait" to debate JD Vance if "he's willing to get off the couch and show up" at Kamala Harris rally.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1161 "2024-08-07T00:20:33Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Dropping Vance after the DNC gets the focus.

But it shows _weakness_. I still don’t see it.

Besides, in the right wing news bubble I presume that Vance is being given fawning praise. Are we positive that Trump - who surely learns the most by turning on the tv - thinks Vance is a failure as a pick?

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