# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1262 "2024-08-12T03:21:08Z")

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I don’t think the R’s really care about this kind of dressing up in women’s clothes. It’s a costume for comedic value, where the comedy comes from exploiting gay/trans stereotypes. It’s the same way that a racist will put on blackface and act out Black stereotypes. They’re not necessarily doing it because they relate to presenting as a woman. Rather, they put on the costume of a woman so they can act out in inappropriate ways and say inappropriate things. Exactly what the R’s love to do.

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> [@filmore](#):
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> I don’t think the R’s really care about this kind of dressing up in women’s clothes. It’s a costume for comedic value, where the comedy comes from exploiting gay/trans stereotypes.

Their frothing at the mouth over drag brunch says otherwise.

[https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/richland-restaurant-vandalized-before-drag-brunch-event/](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/richland-restaurant-vandalized-before-drag-brunch-event/)

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1264 "2024-08-12T03:44:51Z")

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In March 2000, [Rudy Giuliani wore women’s clothes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhtD0OtNfLQ) as part of a filmed skit for a roast.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1265 "2024-08-12T04:57:01Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> I don’t think the R’s really care about this kind of dressing up in women’s clothes.

It depends on how the person reacts to the photos. It’s not weird until they make it weird.

If Vance laughed it off and said it was just a joke when he was younger then it would be a nothingburger but Vance will find a way to make it weird.

Like, I don’t think anyone cared when the photos of Rudy came out because Rudy didn’t make a big deal of it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1266 "2024-08-12T05:02:16Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Part of what makes Vance “weird” is that a real politician should have no problem handling this.

Real Politicians would not think Drag is somehow turning their kids gay. And if so, man they are too late- Mrs Doubtfire, Bugs Bunny, Milton Berle,Tootsie , Some Like it Hot…

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1267 "2024-08-12T08:46:49Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> But he’s probably terrified of Trump seeing him in a dress.

He needn’t worry - he’s way too old for trump’s tastes.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1268 "2024-08-12T09:07:56Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Politico has an entire article about the fact that Vance wears a beard, and insists that it’s significant. Their two main points seem to be that it’s important for Vance to appear “rugged” and more masculine to voters, and it’s also a sign of the voting power of Millennials and younger people who don’t share the stigma of facial hair that older generations did.

I’d also take a step back. He looks better with a beard. He has a chin kinda like mine, and some pudginess in in face. A beard can often make that just look better.

And it’s not just Millennials who started growing a beard since 2020 made it fashionable again. That was the first time I remember in my lifetime when even long beards were in.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1269 "2024-08-12T11:24:24Z")

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> **[JD Vance Praises Trump For Talking To 'Anybody' When Pressed About Nick...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/jd-vance-praises-trump-talking-085347806.html)**
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> ABC News' Jonathan Karl questioned Vance over Trump's meet-up with the white supremacist, who has made racist comments about his wife Usha.

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> “Look, I think he’s — President Trump has issued plenty of condemnations on this. The one thing that I like —,” Vance replied.
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> “But not of Fuentes,” Karl interjected.
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> “The one — the one thing I like about Donald Trump, Jon, is that he actually will talk to anybody,” Vance said.
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> He continued, “But just because you talk to somebody doesn’t mean you endorse their views. And look, I mean Donald Trump spent a lot of quality time with my wife. Every time he sees her, he gives her a hug, tells her she’s beautiful and jokes around with her a little bit.”

I’m not convinced “It’s fine that Trump speaks to Nazis because he also hits on my wife” is a strong selling point, Mr Vance.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Every time he sees her, he gives her a hug, tells her she’s beautiful

Jesus.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1271 "2024-08-12T13:16:40Z")

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No, I don’t think he’d hug Jesus like that, unless he thought it would help his campaign.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1272 "2024-08-12T14:07:27Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m not convinced “It’s fine that Trump speaks to Nazis because he also hits on my wife” is a strong selling point, Mr Vance.

If he wants people to quit calling him a weirdo, he needs to stop saying such weird fucking shit.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1273 "2024-08-12T14:08:00Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’d also take a step back. He looks better with a beard. He has a chin kinda like mine, and some pudginess in in face. A beard can often make that just look better.

I have a beard IRL for much the same reason to be honest. I completely acknowledge that this is not only possible, but likely.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1274 "2024-08-12T14:15:05Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> “The one — the one thing I like about Donald Trump, Jon, is that he actually will talk to anybody,” Vance said.

That phrasing makes it sound like the _only_ thing he likes about Trump.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1275 "2024-08-12T14:16:46Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It depends on how the person reacts to the photos. It’s not weird until they make it weird.

Nah, I’m not letting the party of “dressing in drag makes you a child molester” off that easily.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1276 "2024-08-12T14:43:05Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > Every time he sees her, he gives her a hug, tells her she’s beautiful
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> Jesus.

“And ‘grab’ is in no way the right word to explain what else he does. At most … at _most …_ it’s a gentle caress.”

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Nah, I’m not letting the party of “dressing in drag makes you a child molester” off that easily.

Definitely. Nothing matters except that we win. Stuff I’d normally roll my eyes at as a nothing burger should now be in play.

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men use facial hair for contouring much like women use make up. i know a guy who is a very big 6’9", (he has no interest in sports) he has a very baby face. he tried a beard once, it changed his face so much. he went from cuddly gentle giant to very scary guy you did not want to run into on a well lit street at high noon. he shaved within 2 weeks.

jd vance is a very odd awkward person. why on earth would he bring up walz’s marriage?!

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Nah, I’m not letting the party of “dressing in drag makes you a child molester” off that easily.

Note that we’re talking about how **conservatives** are going to handle the picture; I didn’t think you were in that group (maybe I’m wrong).

> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> men use facial hair for contouring much like women use make up.

Absolutely. I actually use 9 different lengths with a beard trimmer to try to give the illusion that my chin is larger than it is by up to a full centimeter. It doesn’t sound like much but it makes a difference. It subtly reshapes my whole lower face from the cheekbones down.

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Yeah, wrong line to say about a serial womanizer and philanderer.

I’ve been watching a lot of political videos lately and thus seen lots of clips of JD Vance. I’ve never liked him, but now I _despise_ this mutherfucker with a fury.

He is a terrible attack dog. He can’t sell a talking point to save his life. The cadence in his voice is totally wrong. He comes across like a petulant edgelord teen and a _lot_ less mature than his actual age.

Even if Trump were doing well otherwise, Vance is so bad that I think his presence alone might be enough to sink the campaign. He is going to go down in US political history as one of the greatest jokes ever.

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And Vance has got a beard alright.

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