# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1322 "2024-08-13T16:16:20Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > There’s no way Vance shows up with a shiny new 10 million dollars a year job, and someone doesn’t start asking questions. Doesn’t matter anymore. So what if people ask questions? He’s still got that shiny new 10 million dollars a year job. Why would he care? I mean, Clarence Thomas is pretty much openly taking bribes and he doesn’t care about “questions” either. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1323 "2024-08-13T16:48:14Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I just want to scream when I see him or hear him. Walz is everyone’s favorite uncle. Vance is the uncle you never leave alone with your kid. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1324 "2024-08-13T16:50:37Z")
Yup, haha! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1325 "2024-08-13T16:51:46Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > You ever notice how many disgraced fascists go on Dancing with the Stars? That’s weird. Let us not forget the Masked Singer. > **[Unmasking Of Rudy Giuliani On Fox’s ‘The Masked Singer’ Prompts Judges Ken...](https://deadline.com/2022/02/rudy-giuliani-the-masked-singer-contestant-judge-ken-jeong-robin-thicke-walk-off-in-protest-1234925291/)** > > Rudy Giuliani was unmasked during last week's taping of 'The Masked Singer's new season. Judges Ken Jeong and Robin Thicke left the stage in protest. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1326 "2024-08-13T16:57:15Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > from insecure to sinecure Neatly done! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1327 "2024-08-13T17:20:41Z")
I thought this was an interesting interview between Ben Meiselas and Anthony Scaramucci (da Moooch): > **[🚨 Scaramucci PREDICTS Trump May DROP OUT…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKpgfks7_C4%2F)** > > MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Anthony Scaramucci Donald Trump’s meltdown and Scaramucci predicts Trump may drop out as he continues to spiral. Vis... Da Mooch says there’s a 40% chance that Trump will drop out of the race and a 40% chance that he will dump Vance (I’m not sure how those two stats relate, but clearly these are just rough numbers, lol). ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1328 "2024-08-13T17:22:56Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Da Mooch says there’s a 40% chance that Trump will drop out of the race and a 40% chance that he will dump Vance (I’m not sure how those two stats relate, but clearly these are just rough numbers, lol). Has he ever made a correct prediction? Why does anyone care about that clown’s insights? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1329 "2024-08-13T17:25:31Z")
He actually comes across as cool and funny to me, but YMMV. Say what you will, but he knows Trump and knows other people who know Trump, so he has a sort of insider’s take on things. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1330 "2024-08-13T17:41:21Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > He actually comes across as cool and funny to me, but YMMV. Sure–but “cool and funny” isn’t the same as “very good at making predictions”. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1331 "2024-08-13T17:43:00Z")
I predicted that DeSantis would be a catastrophic failure of a candidate and that JD Vance would be a disaster for the ticket when other people here were arguing otherwise. But you _do_ have a point. I think it’s fun to make _interesting_ predictions that have some plausibility to them. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1332 "2024-08-13T17:47:35Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Walz is everyone’s favorite uncle. Vance is the uncle you never leave alone with your kid. I’ve stolen this. ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1333 "2024-08-13T17:53:21Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I predicted that DeSantis would be a catastrophic failure of a candidate and that JD Vance would be a disaster for the ticket when other people here were arguing otherwise. Aren’t you leaving out some of your other predictions? 😉 In any case Scaramucci can make 40% predictions all day long. They’re never going to look wrong and he’ll keep get invited to opine by people that like his predictions. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1334 "2024-08-13T17:59:36Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I predicted that DeSantis would be a catastrophic failure of a candidate and that JD Vance would be a disaster for the ticket when other people here were arguing otherwise. Among other notable predictions that were…[sliiiiiiiiiiiiiightly less accurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834). Pro top: you might not want to call attention to the accuracy of your political prescience. (And I’ll say it again: these clickbait-y sites you keep citing are worth the paper they are printed on, in terms of predictions, at least). ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1335 "2024-08-13T18:15:24Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Among other notable predictions that were…[sliiiiiiiiiiiiiightly less accurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834). Of course. I just meant to point out that I had gotten some contrarian things I predicted right. > [@](#): > > (And I’ll say it again: these clickbait-y sites you keep citing are worth the paper they are printed on, in terms of predictions, at least). They do help keep one fully abreast of what’s going on the presidential election, however. Like on a minute-by-minute scale. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1336 "2024-08-13T20:11:12Z")
Oh, I also had an argument here like last year or so in a thread about Harris’s likability that she would be a great candidate. It was like everyone on the board against myself and like two other people. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1337 "2024-08-14T01:02:02Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > It was like everyone on the board against myself and like two other people. I didnt have any issues with Harris is something happened to Biden. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1338 "2024-08-14T01:13:39Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I predicted that DeSantis would be a catastrophic failure of a candidate and that JD Vance would be a disaster for the ticket when other people here were arguing otherwise. This isn’t meant to be particularly focused on yourself, but there is a tendency in punditry to use intensifiers, saying something is a disaster when it is just a small negative. Vance and Trump have similar approval/disapproval polling, and I think for similar reasons. So I question that Vance is really pulling Trump down. I think that if Trump picked a woman, it would have helped him a bit by sending a signal that he isn’t right-wing seven ways to Sunday. Same if he picked Rubio. But Vance just shows that a Trump administration will be Trumpy. Palin was a real problem for the GOP because the things about her that turned off some potential voters (weird extremist) were different from McCain’s potential turnoffs (Washington insider RINO). Trump and Vance have the same negatives (weird extremist). P.S. This is one of those posts where I half think I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1339 "2024-08-14T01:51:48Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I thought this was an interesting interview between Ben Meiselas and Anthony Scaramucci (da Moooch):… > > … Da Mooch says there’s a 40% chance that Trump will drop out of the race and a 40% chance that he will dump Vance (I’m not sure how those two stats relate, but clearly these are just rough numbers, lol). I’d been wondering how many Scaramuccis Vance would last. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1340 "2024-08-14T02:23:45Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Vance and Trump have similar approval/disapproval polling, and I think for similar reasons. So I question that Vance is really pulling Trump down. That kind of thing is hard to poll and would be hard to prove even if there _were_ polling. But it’s hard to imagine a _worse_ candidate than Vance has proven to be. He has been polled as the VP pick with the lowest favorability in modern history, and he’s garnered a ton of bad press. If he hasn’t dragged down Trump, perhaps no one could have done so. But there’s another factor that you allude to: > [@](#): > > I think that if Trump picked a woman, it would have helped him a bit by sending a signal that he isn’t right-wing seven ways to Sunday. Same if he picked Rubio. But Vance just shows that a Trump administration will be Trumpy. I think the pick of Mike Pence really helped Trump by helping create the “permission structure” for Evangelicals and, yes, normal people to vote for him. A woman would do the same kind of thing for women. Vance doesn’t help normalize Trump, so it’s a missed opportunity. How big is that opportunity cost? Again, hard to compute and prove. > [@](#): > > Palin was a real problem for the GOP because the things about her that turned off some potential voters (weird extremist) were different from McCain’s potential turnoffs (Washington insider RINO). Trump and Vance have the same negatives (weird extremist). Interesting point, and you may be right. At the same time, however, Palin was a woman with the potential benefits that come with that, despite her idiocy. > [@](#): > > P.S. This is one of those posts where I half think I am wrong. I think even experts in the field would have a hard time defending a position based on hard data instead of commensensical arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1341 "2024-08-14T02:25:20Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I’d been wondering how many Scaramuccis Vance would last. LOL. I don’t think the Trump of 2016 would have kept him on this long. At the same time, I don’t think he would have picked him in the first place (he was listening to smarter people then, not Tucker Carlson and his idiot sons, per rumor). I think the main reason why Trump hasn’t ditched him is that Trump is tired and out of it and barely able to make any moves at present. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=66) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511.md?page=68)