# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> I think the main reason why Trump hasn’t ditched him is that Trump is tired and out of it and barely able to make any moves at present.

Yeah, he looks bad - he’s lost weight, he hasn’t been keeping up with his hair dye and his orange face makeup, and he’s starting to look like a very old man. The old man ranting doesn’t help.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Vance is continuing to be weird, edging into creepiness.

He’s so over edging into the couch.

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1344 "2024-08-14T13:19:12Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I am constantly amazed at the number of people who have hitched their fortunes to Trump only to end up completely without dignity, credibility and in some cases, a livelihood. Think about Pence, Jeff Sessions, Giuliani and now Vance, they all crawled on their knees to kiss his ass and they all will have nothing to show for it.

I’ve had the same thought. None of these people are too stupid to see that this happens to everyone before them, so why do they think they’ll be different?

> [@Horatius](#):
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> “Mr. Former VP Laughingstock Candidate, on a scale of “Potatoe” to “Couch Fucker”, how much does this latest scandal affect their campaign?”

That’s a good idea. A VP ranking scale, 1= couch fucker, 2=potatoe, 3 = I can see Russia, can we get all the way to 5 or 10?

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i’ve noticed this as well. his hair looks even more strange and thin. i don’t know if it was the audio on the x thing, but the clips i heard had quite a bit of slurring.

this campaign strategy is just… argh. there are no words, just onomatopias.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I’ve had the same thought. None of these people are too stupid to see that this happens to everyone before them, so why do they think they’ll be different?

To be honest, I think a lot of them are hoping he’ll die on their watch and they get to be VP, rich widow, etc.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1347 "2024-08-14T14:28:34Z")

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I agree. It’s their chance to “grab it for a second,”\* and they’re gonna take it!

\*Underrated Golden Earring song/album.

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1348 "2024-08-14T16:02:22Z")

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I don’t think that there is an easy way to get rid of Vance. The problem with Vance is that on the Trump ticket he’s just more of the same; scary, far right, with a more than a touch of derangement. So if you suddenly say “No this isn’t working he’s polling to poorly and has a weird vibe.” You are effectively admitting the weaknesses of Trump.

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1349 "2024-08-14T16:07:46Z")

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The thing is, Trump LIKES Vance. Vance is a loyal lickspittle.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1350 "2024-08-14T17:12:30Z")

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So, remember the party Vance was at where he was dressed as a woman?

Why was he the only one?

[![](https://i.ibb.co/KqvMR0p/IMG-1860.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/KqvMR0p/IMG-1860.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Why was he the only one?

That’s not my question.

> **[Second Photo Alleged to Show JD Vance in Drag Posted Online](https://www.thedailybeast.com/second-photo-alleging-to-be-jd-vance-in-drag-posted-online)**
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> The Vance campaign has not denied that the man in drag in a viral photo was Donald Trump's 2024 presidential election running mate.

> Travis Whitfill, the source of the alleged photo, said it was taken by a classmate at Yale and sent to him. He, in turn, sent it to Matt Bernstein, the _A Bit Fruity_ podcast host, who posted it online.
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> “It’s from a group chat of Vance’s fellow classmates and is from a friend of a friend. I believe it was grabbed from Facebook and was taken at a Halloween party,” [Whitfill told the Daily Beast](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jd-vances-campaign-wont-deny-thats-him-in-viral-drag-photo?ref=home?ref=home).

If it’s a Halloween party, why was nobody else wearing a costume?

I just think the official story, which is friend-of-a-friend stuff, is not the whole story, if it’s true at all. I don’t see anything insidious and I don’t even really care at all about it, I am sure it was done “as a joke”, but I also don’t think the official narrative is accurate.

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> > [@Aeschines](#):
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> > I think the main reason why Trump hasn’t ditched him is that Trump is tired and out of it and barely able to make any moves at present.
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> Yeah, he looks bad - he’s lost weight, he hasn’t been keeping up with his hair dye and his orange face makeup, and he’s starting to look like a very old man. The old man ranting doesn’t help.

Nor does the slurring/lisping that Trump treated us to during his online conversation with Elon Musk.

I wouldn’t be surprised if @Aeschines is correct, and Trump is simply too low on energy to do anything about Vance (or anything else). The Trump campaign has announced that instead rallies, Donald will be doing “speeches” in auditoriums—which, presumably, will be small enough for him to actually fill. Donald has no doubt been obsessed over the news reports of his inability to fill larger venues.

> [@mozchron](#):
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> The thing is, Trump LIKES Vance. Vance is a loyal lickspittle

Well, Trump may have convinced himself that J.D. genuinely likes him. But on some level, Donald has to know that J.D. is faking it. (Vance may truly believe that Trump’s authoritarianism is worth imitating. But as for his actually _liking_ Trump: I wouldn’t risk a dime bet on that.)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> The Trump campaign has announced that instead rallies, Donald will be doing “speeches” in auditoriums—which, presumably, will be small enough for him to actually fill. Donald has no doubt been obsessed over the news reports of his inability to fill larger venues.

To your point, the Trump campaign is doing a rally in Asheville, NC today. They chose the smaller of two indoor venues, and the city of Asheville made the campaign pay $82k up front:

> **[Trump campaign forced to pay North Carolina city $82K in advance for rally](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-forced-pay-north-carolina-city-82k-advance-rally-1938769)**
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> Trump has a history of failing to pay cities for rally fees if they are not paid in advance.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> They chose the smaller of two indoor venues, and the city of Asheville made the campaign pay $82k up front:

Ah, that’s great. Good on Asheville! I hope that news is broadcast so widely that some of the MAGA actually find out about it (unlikely as that may be).

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JD Vance is starting to sound like Madison Cawthorn.

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LMFAO, perhaps they will merge into one Ultimate Warrior for Reich and Christ!

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> …doing a rally in Asheville, NC today…

His “Allies” have been imploring him to stay on message, the economy, specifically.

Mission Failed. Same Old Bullshit. Not one word of any actual policy.

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I and a carful of kids were stuck in West Asheville, just trying to get home, as the Interstate and all crossing bridges were closed by cops. We were blocked for a long, painful time; but finally Trump’s motorcade, like a kidney stone, passed.

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Also, on a podcast with rightwinger Eric Weinstein in 2020:

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> “You can sort of see the effect it has on him to be around them like they spoil him,” [Vance] said of his first child. "There’s sort of all the classic stuff that grandparents do to grandchildren, but it makes him a much better human being to have exposure to his grandparents.”
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> “That’s the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female in theory,” Weinstein said at the time.
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> “Yes,” Vance agreed.

_Keep talking, Vance._

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His handlers have responded that he didn’t actually refer to the postmenopausal theory of old women; he was just being agreeable with the podcast host.

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Walz has agreed to a VP debate, but Vance only wants one with a live audience. I guess he’s trying to parrot Trump’s line about Kamala’s crowds being AI?

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