# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> That said, I think Walz is much more savvy behind the scenes than he lets on and a lot of his image may be carefully cultivated.

Oh, he’s for sure savvy. But you can be authentic and savvy at the same time. I do genuinely think he is who he shows he is. I don’t have a dad like him or have ever known anyone like him, but you can’t fake that kind of appeal.

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Agree. Vance is literally oiliest, fakest\* politiican I have ever encountered in American politics, and Walz is the coolest and most authentic.

\*Then again, Mike Pence. Though not oily. Smarmy to the power of infinity.

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> “Post birth abortions”; “That’s a bullshit fake problem, but what is a real problem is women not being able to access necessary healthcare in life-threatening situations.”…

Love it.

Vance might counter in the way CaveMike suggests, but Walz should then calmly explain the facts. “I sympathize with anyone that has lost a loved one to violent crime. But the fact is, immigrants are LESS likely to commit violent crimes than native-born. Would I condemn all left-handed people, because some murderer is left-handed? Of course not. I’m sorry, but there’s no logical connection, and to insist otherwise is often racist.”

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1405 "2024-08-17T18:57:13Z")

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Vance confessed that when a teen he played Magic-the Gathering, but dropped it to attract girls. This is typical. Lie about who you are and what you like so that your relationship and even whole life is based on a lie.

I am somewhere between Harris and Biden in age- but I have always admitted I play D&D, and board games. And so my marriages isnt based upon a lie (my wife and i have many interests in common, but she is not a D&D player, and I do not knit- but she encourages me to play- _“Have fun storming the castle!”_

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1406 "2024-08-17T19:32:53Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Vance confessed that when a teen he played Magic-the Gathering, but dropped it to attract girls. This is typical. Lie about who you are and what you like so that your relationship and even whole life is based on a lie.

Vance’s one defining trait seems to be that he will change anything about himself if he thinks it’ll endear you to him.

You know, like a sociopath does.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1407 "2024-08-17T20:17:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Vance’s one defining trait seems to be that he will change anything about himself if he thinks it’ll endear you to him.

For a guy with that lodestar and a Yale degree, you’d think he’d be better at ‘endearing’ himself to, y’know, the electorate.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1408 "2024-08-17T20:41:34Z")

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His benefactor was and is Thiel. Endearing himself to his benefactor and the others of that orbit, saying the things he thinks they want to hear, mattered first and foremost. Then he had the money to convince an electorate to vote him into the Senate, and a platform to get chosen as running mate. He’s stuck with that persona now. I am picturing some old Twilight Zone or such where gets wore masks for a party and when they took them off their faces had become the masks.

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Indeed a Twilight Zone episode, literally called (IIRC) “The Masks.” Especially noteworthy for having been directed by Ida Lupino, the only woman to direct an original TZ.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1410 "2024-08-18T01:44:03Z")

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I do hope he genuinely loves his wife and kids. No one should have a dad as ambitious and shallow as he seems to be.

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Trumpie likes to brag about being the best, the greatest, the smartest in history. Actually, for once he may be right about making history, but not in the way he might want. JD Vance is now the most unpopular VP candidate at least in modern history, polling below Sarah Palin levels. This particular article is from a UK paper but it’s all over American news, too – ABC, MSN, _The New Republic_ …

I don’t think there’s any doubt now that this Appalachian hayseed is a drag on the Trump campaign and may well help to sink it, perhaps along with Vance’s own political career. In short, from a thinking person’s perspective, Trump could not have made a better choice for VP! 😃

> **[JD Vance is now the least popular VP candidate in modern history](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-poll-vp-popularity-sarah-palin-b2597445.html)**
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> Polling averages show that JD Vance has a -9 net popularity rating, worse than Sarah Palin’s low in 2008

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HIs face looks like that rug that snuggles up around the base of toilet. Mine is 25 years old, full of piss-splatter, somewhat moldy or maybe mildewy. I don’t know. Just nasty and don’t even want to pick it up to toss it out.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I do hope he genuinely loves his wife and kids.

If anything, he strikes me as the kind of guy who would say he “had” to get married. The kind of guy who they make those tacky Boomer humor “WIFE BAD” jokes for. The kind of guy who’d show up at your dinner party 45 minutes late wearing an “I paused my game to be here” t-shirt and blame the delay on everyone but himself.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1414 "2024-08-18T09:04:55Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Weren’t the villains in _Gangs of New York_ the intolerant asshole nativists?

[![](https://preview.redd.it/jd-keeps-on-giving-v0-3cycvkf6ocjd1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=8deb8f5a1b2ecc6e3abc650791c5ef1ed80ae62c) ](https://preview.redd.it/jd-keeps-on-giving-v0-3cycvkf6ocjd1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=8deb8f5a1b2ecc6e3abc650791c5ef1ed80ae62c)

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> HIs face looks like that rug that snuggles up around the base of toilet. Mine is 25 years old, full of piss-splatter, somewhat moldy or maybe mildewy. I don’t know. Just nasty and don’t even want to pick it up to toss it out.

I laughed!

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> JD Vance is now the most unpopular VP candidate at least in modern history, polling below Sarah Palin levels.

Just when you thought he couldn’t sink any lower …

> **['Shame on you': Marine vet J.D. Vance buried for defending Trump's smear of...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-war-heroes/)**
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> On Saturday morning former Republican National Chairman Michael Steele jumped all over GOP vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance (R-OH) for his tepid response to Donald Trump's latest attack on U.S. military service members.During a speech on...

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He definitely has got the memo that his primary job is to attach his lips to Trump’s arse.

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Trump is now so mired in dementia and fear of losing that Vance is probably in legitimate fear of being dropped from the ticket. It would be a crazy thing for Trump to do at this stage in the election cycle, but the Orange Felon stopped being rational a long time ago.

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No, that can’t be right. Trump just told me via YouTube ad that KAMALA was rated the worst VP. In history. By historians. I assume they were big, strong male historians.

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With the tears in their eyes fogging up their glasses.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Trump is now so mired in dementia and fear of losing that Vance is probably in legitimate fear of being dropped from the ticket. It would be **a crazy thing for Trump to do at this stage in the election cycle** , but the Orange Felon stopped being rational a long time ago.

My bolding–I’m thinking that if Trump does it, this coming week might be the time. Trump’s been running on an attention deficit for weeks now, ever since Biden stepped aside. He’s got to be seething. Perhaps the thought of taking _ **all** _ attention away from the Democratic Convention is what’s soothing him enough to let him retain the ability to walk upright.

Even if he announces that Vance is stepping aside due to some reason that’s not Donald’s fault (surely a requirement), he’s not going to get ALL the attention away from the Dems. So he’ll have to add a real corker—an announcement of a new running mate that will freak the news media the hell out.

I’m thinking: Ivanka.

Or possibly, if Ivanka refuses: who but Marjorie Taylor Greene? I doubt if Donald can stand her: she’s not pretty. But he could expect to grab 24-hour coverage the day he does it—and that might make it worthwhile for him.

Plus, Empty is _not_ married to a person of non-white heritage: bonus!

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