# Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [January 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511 "2024-01-22T20:48:45Z")\
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> [@Munch](#):
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> That’s not how elected positions work.

Or just freeze her out, or impeach her. Same thing.

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Can you see him picking a woman for the Supreme Court?

Do you know something about Amy Coney Barrett that we don’t?

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Here’s a crazy idea: have the delegates at the convention select the VP.

Speaking of which, I wonder if there is going to be any sort of “grass roots” campaign to nominate somebody. If there are two or more candidates that have the support of a plurality of the delegates of at least five states, then they have to go through the roll call vote - oh, wait, this is the Republican Party we are talking about (the party that, when Mitt Romney was nominated in 2012, somehow all votes for any other candidates were mysteriously ignored by the secretary of the convention); what would probably happen is, there would be a call to suspend the rules and nominate Trump’s choice by acclamation, and of course the ayes would prevail.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/164 "2024-02-28T22:01:39Z")

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A not-crazy idea:

> **[Here’s Why Elise Stefanik Will Be Trump’s Veep Pick](https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-why-elise-stefanik-will-be-trumps-pick-for-vice-president)**
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> The New York congresswoman is a better fit for the role of MAGA second banana than anyone else on Donald Trump’s “short list”.

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> Scott has very extreme positions on social issues, particularly abortion, and the one issue that terrifies Trump most in this election is abortion.

So the crazies are out, which crosses most mentioned in this thread off the list. The only thing DJT wants his veep to be crazy about is him.

Trump is a smart man who plays a dumb one on TV. Elise is his smart pick if winning is important to him, as it is.

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**Post date:** [February 29, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/165 "2024-02-29T17:11:45Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> A not-crazy idea:
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> [Here’s Why Elise Stefanik Will Be Trump’s Pick for Vice President](https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-why-elise-stefanik-will-be-trumps-pick-for-vice-president)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Scott has very extreme positions on social issues, particularly abortion, and the one issue that terrifies Trump most in this election is abortion.
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> So the crazies are out, which crosses most mentioned in this thread off the list. The only thing DJT wants his veep to be crazy about is him.
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> Trump is a smart man who plays a dumb one on TV. Elise is his smart pick if winning is important to him, as it is.

That does make some sense. I don’t for a minute believe Trump cares one bit about abortion beyond playing to his base. I can see how he would want to minimize the noise on abortion and drown it out with immigration. If he thinks abortion is the weakness on his side he’s not going to pick someone extreme on that issue.

Unwavering loyalty to him and winning are equally important to him. The actual issues are relatively unimportant.

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[quote=“PhillyGuy, post:164, topic:996511, full:true”/]  
Trump is a smart man who plays a dumb one on TV. [/quote]

Come on, what evidence of intelligence has he ever shown? His one life skill is conning the rubes. His intellect is non-existent.

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I’d suggest “cunning” over “smart.”

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/168 "2024-03-07T02:58:13Z")

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Back on January 22 in post #16 of this thread I said:

> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> My money is on Elise Stefanik.
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> Stefanik is one of the few who is as nasty and unprincipled as MTG and Boebert but able to keep the crazy tamped down thereby increasing her appeal to the base and independents. Definitely a nasty piece of work who is clearly hungry for power.

So not really a new idea.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/169 "2024-03-12T14:19:14Z")

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I’m a liberal, and and Mitt says Katie Britt’s the veep pick I’m most afraid of:

> <https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1766853692454556006?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1766853692454556006%7Ctwgr%5E2f192ec6d9afa4ff8ecc3146c57181eaa23e521b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F03%2F10%2Fus-news%2Fmitt-romney-defends-katie-britt-from-blowback-over-sotu-rebuttal-liberals-most-fear-as-vp-nominee%2F>

Thr one I’m most afraid of is Noem. She’s very conservative and anti-Ukraine, even by today’s GOP standards, and Trump elevating her makes high risk for her being president one day. She would slightly harm Trump’s chances in November, due to abortion extremism, but not enough to prevent him from winning.

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Remember, he likes “central casting.” He’d pick the person he considers “hot” enough.

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Yeah, Pence’s amorous gaze was almost smouldering.

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Trump’s looksist statements are off the charts compared to anything we are going to see here in the event that DJT picks a woman for veep. And his radical disrespect for women doesn’t hurt him much.

However, Democrats get judged on a different scale. While I normally think nothing we say here influences the real world, I wonder if comments on veep looks could be an exception. IMHO, the GOP will publicize whatever Biden supporters say about a Trump pick’s looks, positive or negative. After the pick, I will not want to make such discussion even more voluminous than it will be, so I will say now – discussing the looks of female Republican candidates makes Democrats who are otherwise feminist appear to be nasty hypocrites and thus hurts our cause (besides being a mistake for normal feminist reasons).

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> **[Childhood friends say Katie Britt 'did everything right' — until she turned...](https://www.rawstory.com/katie-britt-is-done/)**
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> Childhood friends of Republican Sen. Katie Britt think she did everything right for her political career in Alabama — until she became pro-Donald Trump.Speaking to MSNBC on Monday, Republican strategist Rina Shah revealed that her husband grew up...

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/174 "2024-03-16T01:21:33Z")

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NBC News has a story on who he won’t pick.

> **[Abortion is a top concern for Trump as he considers his VP pick](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/abortion-trump-vp-pick-rcna142264)**
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> Former President Donald Trump has been laser-focused on the abortion views of his potential running mates, viewing the issue as a potential vulnerability for Republicans.

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> The candidates most frequently mentioned with some concern are Scott and South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/175 "2024-03-28T21:48:56Z")

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[Here’s why Trump could pick Marjorie Taylor Greene as his running mate](https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2024/03/28/heres-why-trump-could-pick-marjorie-taylor-greene-his-running-mate/)

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> He now values blind loyalty and even blinder sycophancy more than electoral appeal. He’s convinced that he’s popular, and he wants someone to hype his greatness, not highlight his weaknesses.

I do not buy the loyalty part because can trust no one outside his family to remain loyal. As for someone like Stefanik or Scott highlighting his weaknesses by being more articulate — maybe.

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> What I believe Trump wants is a Renfield to his Dracula — a toady who is wholly subservient to his needs and desires. Such a creature — like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, for example — would not only campaign the way Trump wants but would also make the price of removing him from the White House too scary to contemplate.

If Trump is really afraid of being removed from office once back in the White House, MTG makes sense. But I think he plans to use the power of the presidency to prevent that.

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Picking MTG as his running mate would guarantee a massive Biden landslide in the EC. Purely anecdotal but I know a couple dozen very conservative evangelical types in a number of states who can’t stand her and would never vote for a ticket with her on it. Not gonna happen.

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Picking MTG as his running mate would guarantee a massive Biden landslide in the EC.

I agree she would lose Trump votes. That’s why he probably will go with someone who can be sold as being no more extreme than he is.

A point of comparison is Sarah Palin:

[Sarah Palin cost John McCain 2 million votes in 2008, according to a study](https://wapo.st/4cxf9lP)

That is less than 2 percent. In our current polarized era, a bit less than 2 percent could easily be the margin of victory. But the way I look at the polls, he would still have a reasonable chance of victory.

Also, Trump, just by being Trump, already has lost most of the votes of those still-living among the 2 million 2008 moderate voters turned off by Palin. Despite your anecdotes, I think that Trump’s loss from having a far-far-right running mate would be less.

So if Trump is really scared of being taken out of the White House in handcuffs to go to a Georgia prison, maybe letting John Roberts know that MTG is the alternative would be worth it. Hard to say.

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Purely anecdotal but I know a couple dozen very conservative evangelical types in a number of states who can’t stand her and would never vote for a ticket with her on it.

I think this is relevant to the thread, since Trump will not want to pick someone very conservative evangelicals cannot stand.

Is there a specific reason why they put her in a different category from Trump?

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Not that I know other than for evangelicals a loudmouth female is more objectionable than a loudmouth male.

And full disclosure, several of these people have told me they voted for DJT twice but never again. I mentioned it in another thread but my brother and SIL told me they are considering RFK Jr. Because they live in TX I’m not going to argue since a vote there for RFK is a vote NOT for DJT. No clue how that translates nationally.

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Is there a specific reason why they put her in a different category from Trump?

The word “her” is reason enough for those evangelicals who believe women are forbidden to [have authority over men](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Timothy%202%3A12). Some apply that only to the church context, but others don’t think it’s so limited. The fact that that ship sailed on the civil side with women judges _over 100 years ago_ doesn’t seem to faze them. 🙄

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