# Who will be Trump's VP? \[plus\] Trump's Vice-President choice?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 20, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179 "2016-01-20T17:51:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/321 "2016-07-14T16:56:59Z")

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Damn, I was hoping it would be Newt.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/322 "2016-07-14T17:03:07Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I don’t think you RC. But regardless, his first wife passed away a couple years ago some 30 years after their divorce.

She was the one with whom he wanted to negotiate their divorce with while she lay in a hospital bed.

I lived in Newts congressional district at the time, worked on his 94 campaign a bit, and this was constantly brought up.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/323 "2016-07-14T17:04:08Z")

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… and thus Newt slides back into irrelevancy.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/324 "2016-07-14T17:14:25Z")

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Mike Pence on the issues:

[http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike\_Pence.htm](http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike_Pence.htm)

Just a typical Republican that does promises ponies for all but no taxes to fund that. This selection also points to the continuation to the ruinous war on drugs and to discrimination in the possible Trump administration.

[http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike\_Pence\_Civil\_Rights.htm](http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike_Pence_Civil_Rights.htm)

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/325 "2016-07-14T17:14:45Z")

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@JohnT:  
Well, Gingrich’s side of the story is that they just got in a “normal” divorcing couples argument, which is still a little unseemly of course. I doubt he would have planned a negotiation with their two daughters along for the hospital visit.

Wonder what job Trump has planned for old Newt? And for Christie? (now that it’s clear all the people who “called it” were wrong 😛 )

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/326 "2016-07-14T17:22:03Z")

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Well, four years ago, when Mittens announced Paul Ryan, I launched a[Paul Ryan Gosling tumblr](https://www.tumblr.com/blog/paulryangosling), and the shit wrote itself for like four months.

I’ll admit, Mike Pence didn’t inspire the same lightning bolt of inspiration that Paul Ryan did. I may have to sit the vice presidential satire game out this year.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/327 "2016-07-14T17:24:28Z")

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I already confuse him with Hunter Pence all the time.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/328 "2016-07-14T17:31:10Z")

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So, never having seen Mike Pence before I googled him.

The second section is his Twitter, and it specifically highlights this tweet:  
[https://twitter.com/GovPenceIN/status/674249808610066433?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://twitter.com/GovPenceIN/status/674249808610066433?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/329 "2016-07-14T17:36:06Z")

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So Trump selected RFRA Pence as his running mate, eh? Yeah, that’ll help him.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/330 "2016-07-14T17:54:50Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Yeah, just heard on the radio that it’s Pence.

Picks Pence and none the wiser.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/331 "2016-07-14T18:29:59Z")

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i’m very surprised. Pence seems like an overall decent man, although he’s way too religious for my tastes. I would have thought Trump would’ve wanted someone a little more… aggressive in the Chris Christie manner. I never thought Christie made sense since NY/NJ, what’s the diff? but I did think Gingrich had it locked up. He could have done worse than Pence, and at least the guy has the resume to be back-up president even if I don’t agree with many of his policies.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/332 "2016-07-14T18:38:34Z")

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A solidly vanilla choice. He doesn’t hurt the ticket, but I don’t see a lot of help here, either. So Trump has a straight man, playing Dean Martin to his Jerry Lewis.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/333 "2016-07-14T19:28:06Z")

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And now there are several right wing pundits and commentators that do not like that choice:

> **[“Boring” “Nothingburger”: Conservatives Pan Pence As Trump’s Running Mate](https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/boring-nothingburger-conservatives-pan-pence-trumps-running-mate)**
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> Right-wing media figures criticized presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s reported decision to tap Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his running mate, calling Pence a “not-smart coward” with “low energy.”

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> DailyWire’s Ben Shapiro: “Mike Pence Blew All His Conservative Credibility Over Religious Freedom Restoration Act In Indiana. What A Nothingburger.”
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> National Review’s Charles C. W. Cooke: “‘I Thought I Was Going To Lose My Home State, So I Joined A Ticket That’s Losing Nationally.’”
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> Conservative Commentator Ann Coulter: “Withholding Comment Until It’s Official, But If Claims About Pence As VP Are Correct, Boy Was I Right About This Being Trump’s First Mistake.”
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> Weekly Standard’s Mark Hemingway: “What Pence Did With Religious Liberty In Indiana Was Malevolence Born Of Cowardice.”

Yes Ann Coulter, that was Trump first mistake :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/334 "2016-07-14T19:31:05Z")

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Yeah, the solid, steady politician with the practical experience of governing sure did a great job with that religious liberty bill. This should go well.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/335 "2016-07-14T20:02:54Z")

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Well, it _will_ lock down the evangelical vote that wasn’t so sure Trump was crazy enough.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/336 "2016-07-14T21:14:02Z")

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I’m reminded of the runup to the 1988 campaign, when Gary Hart was the Democrats’ Great Hope (before that Monkey Business with Donna Rice). The press discovered that Hart had changed his name from Hartpence before going into politics, apparently removing this Dickensian suffix to sound less effete and more populist.

_National Review_ (of course seeing this as proof of the inherent phoniness of liberalism) made their opinion known with a delightful, commentless gag: in one issue’s masthead, they added ‘pence’ to everyone’s surname (‘William F. Buckleypence’, ‘George F. Willpence’, etc.), with the exception of senior editor Jeffrey Hart, whose name was left unchanged.

Anyways, I wonder if this will make _NR_ change their minds about Trump.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/337 "2016-07-14T21:20:04Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> I hope he picks Michael Flynn or Newt Gingrich for maximum kekery and to ensure an amusing VP debate.

I hate to ask, but what, pray tell, is “kekery”?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/338 "2016-07-14T21:28:21Z")

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Free headline: Does Pence Add Value?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/339 "2016-07-14T21:37:39Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> In addition to **DSeid** ’s good reasons posted above, Pence has a noon Friday deadline. Indiana law does not allow him to run for two offices on the same ballot.

Trump’s VP announcement is set for ONE HOUR earlier (11am EDT. Note that though a few Indiana counties are on Central Time, most, including the capital, are on EDT.)

So what odds Trump is planning to Be Unpredictable? The ‘speaking slots’ clues all point to Pence as VP pick, but perhaps that’s misdirection…? If Trump’s pick is actually Ted Nugent, then Pence would still be able to file his running-for-re-election papers in time.

Surprise!!!

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/340 "2016-07-14T21:43:03Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Picks Pence and none the wiser.

Clap…clap…clap… 😃

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