# Who will be Trump's VP? \[plus\] Trump's Vice-President choice? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179 "2016-01-20T17:51:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/121 "2016-04-12T17:42:57Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > It’ll be Ivanka Trump. She’s Constitutionally qualified, to my surprise (turning 35 this fall), and seems to be the only person Trump actually likes and trusts. Normally, a candidate wouldn’t choose his own daughter, but this is not a normal campaign. This is a real possibility. She is very sharp. It would be good insurance against those who might try to quell Trump’s insurgency by assassinating him. Ivanka could step in Bhutto style and faithfully advance the Trump agenda and personify the message. Ivanka seems to be a hard working, well spoken, thoughtful woman. This is contrary to the stereotype about rich daughters. It is also rather inconvenient to the Trump as misogynist narrative that she is his daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/122 "2016-04-12T18:05:10Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > This is a real possibility. She is very sharp. > > It would be good insurance against those who might try to quell Trump’s insurgency by assassinating him. Ivanka could step in Bhutto style and faithfully advance the Trump agenda and personify the message. > > Ivanka seems to be a hard working, well spoken, thoughtful woman. This is contrary to the stereotype about rich daughters. It is also rather inconvenient to the Trump as misogynist narrative that she is his daughter. Sorry, but it changes nothing about the multitude of sexist statements he’s made over his lifetime, nor will it change women’s votes one jot. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/123 "2016-04-12T18:07:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Hmm. The name _just_ rings a bell… gimme a minute… Aside from the “someone most people have never heard of” part, he fits the bill quite diabolically. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/124 "2016-04-12T18:10:19Z")
Does Ivanka live in NY? Might be a problem, as the NY electors couldn’t cast their votes for both of them. Sure, he’s not going to carry NY anyway, so the point is moot. But it would be a bit interesting to have a vice president that the president said he’d like to date if she wasn’t his daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/125 "2016-04-12T19:00:21Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Does Ivanka live in NY? Might be a problem, as the NY electors couldn’t cast their votes for both of them. Sure, he’s not going to carry NY anyway, so the point is moot. But it would be a bit interesting to have a vice president that the president said he’d like to date if she wasn’t his daughter. As covered back in posts 9 & 10, the only effect of them both being from NY is that NY’s electors wouldn’t be able to cast their votes for both. Pretty much a non-issue for three reasons: as you point out, the Trumps wouldn’t win NY anyway; the Senate is under sufficient Republican control that they’d be able to install I. Trump in the event of her father winning the Presidency, but I. Trump being unable to clear a majority of votes for the VP; it’s easily worked around (see Cheney, Dick.) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/126 "2016-04-12T19:44:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Hank Beecher** : > > It would be good insurance against those who might try to quell Trump’s insurgency by assassinating him. Ivanka could step in Bhutto style and faithfully advance the Trump agenda and personify the message. Message? Agenda? If Trump has either of those, he’s been keeping them under wraps. And it does nothing to dispel the narrative of Trump as a misogynist when the only compliment he can think of for a woman is that he’d like to date her, _even when the woman in question is his own daughter_. Oh, and it’d also incidentally defang any attacks he could make against Clinton for being part of a family dynasty. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/127 "2016-04-12T19:47:11Z")
I’m glad you posted this thread, because now I have someplace appropriate to complain about the bumper sticker I saw on a car today: Trump/Cheney 2016 _Really??_ Who really thinks fucking Cheney is a good choice to come back? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/128 "2016-04-12T19:50:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Message? Agenda? If Trump has either of those, he’s been keeping them under wraps. > > And it does nothing to dispel the narrative of Trump as a misogynist when the only compliment he can think of for a woman is that he’d like to date her, _even when the woman in question is his own daughter_. > > Oh, and it’d also incidentally defang any attacks he could make against Clinton for being part of a family dynasty. Certainly Trump has an agenda. It has to do with personal aggrandizement at any cost. And I do mean any. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/129 "2016-04-12T20:04:44Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > John Bolton, maybe? Hits all the talking points that the Trump crew seems to love. Already announced his support, I think (or at least neutrality). > > Has a plausible amount of foreign policy experience, although a massive Iraq war hawk teamed up with the guy that constantly trashes the Iraq war is a bit dissonant. > > And a quick Google search shows Bolton strongly apposed to the proposed Muslim ban, so who knows. Bolton is the kind of guy I had in mind. The Muslim ban would never happen anyway. Also Bolton’s mustache will distract people from Donald’s hair. Win-win! ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/130 "2016-04-12T20:24:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Message? Agenda? If Trump has either of those, he’s been keeping them under wraps. > > And it does nothing to dispel the narrative of Trump as a misogynist when the only compliment he can think of for a woman is that he’d like to date her, _even when the woman in question is his own daughter_. > > Oh, and it’d also incidentally defang any attacks he could make against Clinton for being part of a family dynasty. Is there an implied argument here that Trump will carefully consider the pros and cons of choosing his running mate, and make a rational choice that will maximize his chance of winning? Because if so, I reject that premise. On the other hand, if you’re merely making the case that Ivanka would be a poor choice, then I can only agree. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/131 "2016-04-12T20:29:09Z")
I know better than to try to make any predictions about what Trump will do. ---
**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/132 "2016-04-12T20:35:10Z")
Cthulhu. Actually, I still think Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/133 "2016-04-12T22:41:30Z")
What is this I hear about a [Convention Choice](https://www.yahoo.com/news/unconventional-no-1-the-gops-veep-problem-183429119.html) of VP? > [@](#): > > And it’s also possible that a majority of delegates could nominate the party’s 2016 veep candidate by themselves — no matter what the presidential candidates do, say or want. (Call it a Convention’s Choice). I know rules for VP now are different from back in Washington’s day, but am I correct to assume that the article is saying the VP is decided by the convention? Like, they vote for the nominee, then they vote for the VP? Its not just whoever the nominee picks? So its possible that the delegates can pick a VP first, get that out of the way, and THEN pick a nominee and Trump or Cruz or whoever can’t do anything except accept it? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/134 "2016-04-12T23:24:28Z")
> [@tullsterx](#): > > Cthulhu. > > Actually, I still think Cruz. Two spellings. Same being. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/135 "2016-04-12T23:27:20Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I’m glad you posted this thread, because now I have someplace appropriate to complain about the bumper sticker I saw on a car today: > > Trump/Cheney 2016 > > _Really??_ Who really thinks fucking Cheney is a good choice to come back? The kind of people who think Trump is a good idea in the first place. It actually makes sense. Evil, fucked up sense, but sense nonetheless. After all, if Cheney was able to shepherd GWB through 8 years well in over his head, perhaps he can do the same for Trump. OTOH, we’ve already pretty well trashed the Middle East. I wonder which other region we’ll trash if Trump/Cheney comes to pass? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/136 "2016-04-13T02:24:44Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The kind of people who think Trump is a good idea in the first place. It actually makes sense. Evil, fucked up sense, but sense nonetheless. > > After all, if Cheney was able to shepherd GWB through 8 years well in over his head, perhaps he can do the same for Trump. > > OTOH, we’ve already pretty well trashed the Middle East. I wonder which other region we’ll trash if Trump/Cheney comes to pass? :eek: 29, 30, 31… Oh, sorry, just counting the trillions the national debt would be by the end of that administration’s only term… ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/137 "2016-04-13T03:00:18Z")
I always maintained in previous threads about potential VP candidates that Donald Trump would choose as running mate someone who is a career politician. He needs that experience and his answers have all alluded to it. Forget stupid answers that mentioned Ben Carson, or some fellow billionaire like Mark Cuban. Not all tickets have to have a balance, but a Trump led ticket truly needs a politician to balance that out. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is also fitting that bill. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/138 "2016-04-13T03:01:59Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > What is this I hear about a [Convention Choice](https://www.yahoo.com/news/unconventional-no-1-the-gops-veep-problem-183429119.html) of VP? > > I know rules for VP now are different from back in Washington’s day, but am I correct to assume that the article is saying the VP is decided by the convention? Like, they vote for the nominee, then they vote for the VP? Its not just whoever the nominee picks? So its possible that the delegates can pick a VP first, get that out of the way, and THEN pick a nominee and Trump or Cruz or whoever can’t do anything except accept it? I think the nominee personally chooses his/her running mate aND it is not decided by delegates. Fairly positive about that. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/139 "2016-04-13T03:09:39Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Christie & Carson are both acting (at least as of about 3 weeks ago) as if they’ve already been hand-picked for the job. Christie yes, he is moderate Republican that can attract more voters to a Trump ticket, whereas Cruz is way too conservative and not as liked by the establishment. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179/140 "2016-04-13T04:28:07Z")
The modern practice is for the presidential nominee to announce his choice of a running mate before the convention, and the convention delegates then approve it. But Adlai Stevenson allowed the convention to choose his running mate for him in 1956, and in 2008, John McCain didn’t pick Joe Lieberman as his VP in part because his advisors warned him the convention would balk. So it’s not necessarily a rubber stamp. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-vp-plus-trumps-vice-president-choice/751179.md?page=8)