# Who will we become? Who we were - Who we are- Who will we be **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 18, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624 "2015-09-18T01:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/21 "2015-09-18T10:44:12Z")
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray, South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe Dimaggio. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/22 "2015-09-18T11:10:49Z")
Sticksandstones, your original post was a series of vague statements, covering many topics with no supporting evidence. Please could you be more specific and also provide some cites? I’ll pick out a couple of things you said as an example: > [@sticksandstones](#): > > Between 1900 and 2000, modifications in machinery, medicine, social structure, social acceptance, and social self-worth has never gone through such admirable progression. > > Yet, in less than twenty years, we’ve reverted from maturity and progress. What evidence do you have for this assertion? > [@sticksandstones](#): > > What we can’t buy is time, but we race through the majority of our adult life chasing $$$, way’s to make it, and we hope, pray, and scheme that we can stash enough of it away so we can “retire” and not become destitute. What evidence do you have for this assertion? I retired at 55, owing a house and with secured retirement income from pensions, tax-efficient savings and Premium Bonds. I didn’t ‘race through life chasing money’ (I never took a promotion) and I had some great jobs along the way (teaching chess, roleplaying and computer games for example.) I didn’t need to pray or scheme. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/23 "2015-09-18T11:16:24Z")
Sounds like someone graduated this spring and still hasn’t found a job in his field. It is tempting to project such failure onto the global condition, and young persons have, as a wise man once said, all the historical perspective of ground squirrels. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/24 "2015-09-18T11:20:28Z")
I haven’t smoked pot in years, but now I’m looking for my bong. ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/25 "2015-09-18T11:25:05Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Sounds like someone graduated this spring and still hasn’t found a job in his field. It is tempting to project such failure onto the global condition, and young persons have, as a wise man once said, all the historical perspective of ground squirrels. Sir Doctor. What brandish title shall you merit onto thee to give ye great value, significance and prestige. If the electricity went out, and your bank account went blank, I bet in 7 days you’d probably go what you call insane. Never again to feel the warmth and comfort you’ve grown to love. A shallowness and hollowness in a world once loved. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/26 "2015-09-18T11:27:22Z")
> [@sticksandstones](#): > > Neo what era? is that the era we evolved from a micro organism ? or didn’t know how to start a fire? Fercryinoutloud, crack a book! Or at least enter a few keystrokes into Wikipedia. The Neolithic Era started some twelve thousand years ago and lasted anywhere from 6000 to 8000 years. The Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons had already gone extinct, and the age of _H. Sapiens_ was in full swing. Mjcro organisms. Sheesh. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/27 "2015-09-18T11:34:07Z")
Too much frothy rhetoric, not nearly enough substance. “It’s hip to be miserable, when you’re young and intellectual.” Joni Mitchell ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/28 "2015-09-18T11:34:55Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Sticksandstones, > > your original post was a series of vague statements, covering many topics with no supporting evidence. > Please could you be more specific and also provide some cites? > > I’ll pick out a couple of things you said as an example: > > What evidence do you have for this assertion? > > What evidence do you have for this assertion? > > I retired at 55, owing a house and with secured retirement income from pensions, tax-efficient savings and Premium Bonds. > I didn’t ‘race through life chasing money’ (I never took a promotion) and I had some great jobs along the way (teaching chess, roleplaying and computer games for example.) > I didn’t need to pray or scheme. I cherish the role you played, as I have myself, done similar things. How is attacking my perspective going though… Have none of you read , in it’s entirety, what I wrote? or even digested an ounce of thought. I have love and compassion for this world, yet a clear mind can easily see that you’re blinded if a pension and paid off house is what life in our world should be… You all seem to think I am personally attacking each and every one of you personally, but you all have taken turns attacking me. That is exactly proving my point. Not once, did one of you take a moment to dive into any thoughts I projected upon the page. You simple read, get emotional, and type. I’ve worked for nearly 20 years, I am retired at less than the age of 40, my house isn’t just paid off, my car isn’t just one - its a collection. But these are just bread crumbs compared to what matters to me. I felt compelled to point that crap out because all you’ve done is assumed things on an emotional level. I am not a child nor half a foot in the grave. I see life, I embrace it, and I cherish it. I have a family, I worked only so I can spend more time with them than 40+ hours a week away from them. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/29 "2015-09-18T11:35:31Z")
> [@sticksandstones](#): > > Sir Doctor. What brandish title shall you merit onto thee to give ye great value, significance and prestige. If the electricity went out, and your bank account went blank, I bet in 7 days you’d probably go what you call insane. Never again to feel the warmth and comfort you’ve grown to love. A shallowness and hollowness in a world once loved. Well at least we now know you’re not a philosophy major. ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/30 "2015-09-18T11:42:34Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Too much frothy rhetoric, not nearly enough substance. > > “It’s hip to be miserable, when you’re young and intellectual.” Joni Mitchell Is everyone on this bored ageist? and completely one dimensional in thought. “The one who throws to blow, clearly doesn’t even have a nose to grow” - some dick AND YES I WROTE IT BORED ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/31 "2015-09-18T11:44:48Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Well at least we now know you’re not a philosophy major. actually, I am a time traveller who has more advanced brain because some scientist injected the population with gene altering medicine, and then we got time machines to go back and stop it from happening. Now what do I sound like. A 10 year old retard kid? YES I SAID RETARD ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/32 "2015-09-18T11:46:02Z")
> [@sticksandstones](#): > > Sir Doctor. What brandish title shall you merit onto thee to give ye great value, significance and prestige. If the electricity went out, and your bank account went blank, I bet in 7 days you’d probably go what you call insane. Never again to feel the warmth and comfort you’ve grown to love. A shallowness and hollowness in a world once loved. Are you saying that, if the electricity and his bank account _do_ keep on keeping on, he’ll keep enjoying warmth and comfort and prestige and significance? If so, we can keep checking in with him – next week, next year, next decade – in friendly conversations laden with philosophy and wit, and he can keep relaying that, _er, no; not insane yet; still being a good man until further notice._ ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/33 "2015-09-18T11:48:11Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Fercryinoutloud, crack a book! Or at least enter a few keystrokes into Wikipedia. The Neolithic Era started some twelve thousand years ago and lasted anywhere from 6000 to 8000 years. The Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons had already gone extinct, and the age of _H. Sapiens_ was in full swing. > > Mjcro organisms. Sheesh. :smack: Omg - finally one person on my side. I shall brand you Straight Dope Man, lose the cape though - it will draw attention. YES PEOPLE I TYPED OMG - I MUST BE A 17 YEAR OLD CHEERLEADER NOW. ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/34 "2015-09-18T11:49:38Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Are you saying that, if the electricity and his bank account _do_ keep on keeping on, he’ll keep enjoying warmth and comfort and prestige and significance? > > If so, we can keep checking in with him – next week, next year, next decade – in friendly conversations laden with philosophy and wit, and he can keep relaying that, _er, no; not insane yet; still being a good man until further notice._ Yes mam. you’re right. In a decade I am sure he will just as miserable as he is today. HATERS BE HATING GETTR DONE apparently. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/35 "2015-09-18T11:51:18Z")
I see this as a wonderful time for humanity. The recent past we went through a period of dirty advancement, selfish desires and greed raped the earth and enslaved the masses, causing humanity to live it it’s own filth. On a different level we were like small children who are still in diapers, but shouldn’t be anymore but wouldn’t learn, and we were left in our own filth to learn that way instead. Also we formed small groups and were hating of outsiders, hating differences in cultures and appearances. At this time we were divided from Mother Earth (as a living spirit), along with our guiding angels, they stepped back, a degree of separation between her and us was put into place and most of us lived in a very human centric environment. This was the reason for the greed, we were left on our own. This is coming to it’s end and we are reconnecting with each other and our Mother. We are learning ways to have advancement in harmony with her and each other, we are learning respect for each other as well and far more tolerant of differences then we once were. We are being rapidly advanced now technologically, because in many ways through the technology gifted to us we are overcoming our differences, basically overcoming what the ‘sons of God’ did with the Tower of Babbel’ this because the time is right for us, we have learned and are learning to get along and play nicely with the other children of the earth and no longer need to be ‘sent to our separate rooms’. The future for us to me is clear, we are the child of Mother Earth, the planet itself is her womb, and she will deliver us, we will become starborn, we will leave the womb one day to find many new children of the stars and become a member of that greater society. The barriers right now to intersteller travel is the barrier of the womb to the child, it will end, and a new chapter of humanity will start, a merging with something much greater. Peace ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/36 "2015-09-18T11:51:41Z")
> [@sticksandstones](#): > > HATERS BE HATING More like pointing and laughing. ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/37 "2015-09-18T11:57:19Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > i see this as a wonderful time for humanity. The recent past we went through a period of dirty advancement, selfish desires and greed raped the earth and enslaved the masses, causing humanity to live it it’s own filth. On a different level we were like small children who are still in diapers, but shouldn’t be anymore but wouldn’t learn, and we were left in our own filth to learn that way instead. Also we formed small groups and were hating of outsiders, hating differences in cultures and appearances. At this time we were divided from mother earth (as a living spirit), along with our guiding angels, they stepped back, a degree of separation between her and us was put into place and most of us lived in a very human centric environment. This was the reason for the greed, we were left on our own. > This is coming to it’s end and we are reconnecting with each other and our mother. We are learning ways to have advancement in harmony with her and each other, we are learning respect for each other as well and far more tolerant of differences then we once were. We are being rapidly advanced now technologically, because in many ways through the technology gifted to us we are overcoming our differences, basically overcoming what the ‘sons of god’ did with the tower of babbel’ this because the time is right for us, we have learned and are learning to get along and play nicely with the other children of the earth and no longer need to be ‘sent to our separate rooms’. > > The future for us to me is clear, we are the child of mother earth, the planet itself is her womb, and she will deliver us, we will become starborn, we will leave the womb one day to find many new children of the stars and become a member of that greater society. The barriers right now to intersteller travel is the barrier of the womb to the child, it will end, and a new chapter of humanity will start, a merging with something much greater. > > Peace thank you omg thank you. I was about to delete my account. ---
**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/38 "2015-09-18T11:59:17Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > More like pointing and laughing. Statements like that prove: 95% you 5% me Wrap your child up, putt’em on a helmet, and give’m birth control buddy - because whatever you got - this world don’t need to see repeat again. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/39 "2015-09-18T11:59:40Z")
> [@sticksandstones](#): > > Is everyone on this bored ageist? and completely one dimensional in thought. > “The one who throws to blow, clearly doesn’t even have a nose to grow” - some dick > > AND YES I WROTE IT BORED It’s not like you’re helping matters. ---
**Author:** ![IDtenT\_Error](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@IDtenT\_Error](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IDtenT_Error)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/40 "2015-09-18T11:59:57Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Q. Are we not men? [We Are Devo!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gla1DBHes4) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624.md?page=3)