# Who will we become? Who we were - Who we are- Who will we be

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 18, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624 "2015-09-18T01:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/121 "2015-09-19T12:53:59Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I’m not certain that OP passes the Turing test.

Whether I failed, or passed. Technology will end up winning. Remember Deep Blue, I’ve been in my fair share of debates - not on-line secured or manipulated - I’ve won and I’ve lost. I’ve gotten into fist fights, so on and so on.

The difference between a human battling a computer is that a computer has access to an infinite amount of perspectives, angles of attack, and emotion is eliminated entirely. The computers margin for error becomes so small they can’t and won’t ever lose.

So yes, eventually a race car operated by a computer will beat the best driver we can throw at it - forever and ever until the end of days. It’s program will alter it’s speed for every variable it’s been provided, and then it will get to the point of being able to create its own variables. Human instinct only has an upside for a limited time before the computer will engage against whatever advantage the human exhibits. Humans aren’t programmed to win this fight, and we should be smart enough to avoid this obvious outcome. There will be a point when AI exceeds what it was intended for, and yes - our future is predicted by the writers of science fiction. If nature doesn’t kill us first, the robots will. hahaha.

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**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/122 "2015-09-19T13:35:32Z")

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> [@dba\_Fred](#):
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> To summarize the originating post:  
> \*The **OP’s** blood’s so mad feels like coagulating  
> The **OP’s** sitting here just contemplatin’  
> The **OP** can’t twist the truth it knows no regulation  
> Handful of senators don’t pass legislation  
> And marches alone can’t bring integration  
> When human respect is disintegratin’  
> This whole crazy world is just too frustratin’  
> \*  
> _And we’re telling the **OP**  
> Over and over and over again my friend  
> Ah, we don’t believe_  
> We’re on the eve of destruction

Fucken eh dude. Thank you. That was awesome.

I wasn’t ever stating we’re on the eve of destruction. But if you think kids posting a video on YouTube before killing themselves is heading for sunshine and rainbows - good on you. Or videos of police openly beating someone to death or so forth is ok - good on you. If you think, well, shit dude, I could keep make points and be specific, but you’d just say - Over and over again my friend - we don’t believe we’re on the eve of destruction because your eyes are wide shut to anything that isn’t a distraction.

Sometimes we notice things when it’s on our front doorstep, and sometimes we see things in the distance like the sun rising. Whether the path is clearly marked in the distance or not, I am not the only one who can see that shit clearly stinks regardless if you smell it likes roses. Please proceed with your multitude of contradicting opinion.

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**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/123 "2015-09-19T13:38:43Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> If you do Twitter, you could do worse than reading this guy: [Max Roser](https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser). He is a master of graphing data, and his focus is on societal changes throughout history.

Thanks for the link. 🙂

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**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/124 "2015-09-19T13:43:34Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Our conversations with other storytellers have led to a redefining of hyper-advanced consciousness. We are at a crossroads of rejuvenation and selfishness. Humankind has nothing to lose.
> 
> It can be difficult to know where to begin. Have you found your journey? Although you may not realize it, you are conscious. You must take a stand against turbulence. Delusion is born in the gap where consciousness has been excluded. Where there is selfishness, sharing cannot thrive.
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> Only a being of the nexus may manifest this spark of complexity.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/125 "2015-09-19T14:34:17Z")

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…hey, welcome.🆒 stick around…this place has a way of growing on you…

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**Author:** ![sticksandstones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@sticksandstones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sticksandstones)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/126 "2015-09-19T15:03:58Z")

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Thanks dude. I ain’t leaving yet, I just got here.

And I love Cecil, he’s the kind of brain I love to digest. I bet he’s even smoked mary with George Carlin at some point along the way. Not that mary has anything to do with being awesome.

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**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/127 "2015-09-19T16:40:51Z")

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You have the right (as expressed in the rules of the board listed elsewhere) to express yourself as you see fit.

You do not have the right:

- To expect a warm welcome
- To not be mocked
- To not be questioned
- To require anyone’s attention whatsoever

And that is wonderful! For in the crucible of conversation, truly valuable ideas can be exchanged and expanded. It is a beautiful process to behold.

If you look through the board you will witness plenty of it. If not, you get this.

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**Author:** ![IDtenT\_Error](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@IDtenT\_Error](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IDtenT_Error)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/128 "2015-09-20T17:45:37Z")

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> [@sticksandstones](#):
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> I came across this message board and posted my thoughts. And to my dismay, and shock, there was a line up of people waiting to bash my thoughts.

No one here is bashing your thoughts. They’re bashing your utterly incoherent way of expressing whatever those thoughts might be. You can’t ‘share your thoughts’ unless you can successfully communicate them. You’re failing miserably at that. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/129 "2015-09-21T11:55:09Z")

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[quote=“sticksandstones, post:121, topic:731624”]

I’ve gotten into fist fights, so on and so on.

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It is hard turning the other cheek even with our usernames.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/130 "2015-09-21T13:39:48Z")

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> [@sticksandstones](#):
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> 🙂

Truth is a constant. Insight requires exploration.

The nexus is calling to you via supercharged waveforms. Can you hear it? How should you navigate this sacred quantum soup? If you have never experienced this paradigm shift of the creative act, it can be difficult to heal.

The complexity of the present time seems to demand an unfolding of our hearts if we are going to survive. Only a child of the planet may harmonize this harmonizing of insight. Pain is born in the gap where purpose has been excluded.

By awakening, we grow. This life is nothing short of a condensing canopy of psychic ecstasy. We exist as electromagnetic forces. As you heal, you will enter into infinite learning that transcends understanding. You will soon be awakened by a power deep within yourself — a power that is endless, sensual. We must heal ourselves and empower others.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/131 "2015-09-21T16:23:20Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Truth is a constant. Insight requires exploration.
> 
> The nexus is calling to you via supercharged waveforms. Can you hear it? How should you navigate this sacred quantum soup? If you have never experienced this paradigm shift of the creative act, it can be difficult to heal.
> 
> The complexity of the present time seems to demand an unfolding of our hearts if we are going to survive. Only a child of the planet may harmonize this harmonizing of insight. Pain is born in the gap where purpose has been excluded.
> 
> By awakening, we grow. This life is nothing short of a condensing canopy of psychic ecstasy. We exist as electromagnetic forces. As you heal, you will enter into infinite learning that transcends understanding. You will soon be awakened by a power deep within yourself — a power that is endless, sensual. We must heal ourselves and empower others.

Now who can argue with that?

I think we’re all indebted to **Inner Stickler** for clearly stating what needed to be said. I’m particularly glad that the lovely children of the SDMB were here today to read that speech. Not only was it authentic internet gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/132 "2015-09-21T17:17:04Z")

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And no one heard at all  
Not even the chair.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/133 "2015-09-21T18:06:08Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Now who can argue with that?

Only a sidewindin’ bushwackin’, hornswagglin’ cracker croaker would dare to.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/134 "2015-09-21T18:20:48Z")

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Humanity will shed our mortal shells and join together in spiritual harmony. This will be achieved by turning into tang. I saw it in a cartoon once.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/135 "2015-09-21T18:41:59Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Ditto.

“Ditto? DITTO?!, you provincial putz?”

As to the OP… Da fuck?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/136 "2015-09-21T19:01:40Z")

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Not only Da Fuck, but Ma Fuck and all the little Fucks.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/137 "2015-09-21T19:17:22Z")

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What is, is.

What was, will be.

What will be _was_ but will be again.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/138 "2015-09-21T20:02:09Z")

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> [@dba\_Fred](#):
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> And no one heard at all  
> Not even the chair.

“Mr. Diamond! Your barcalounger is on line 2!”

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**Author:** ![Lucretia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@Lucretia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucretia)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/139 "2015-09-21T22:59:08Z")

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We exist as morphic resonance.

Ecstasy is a constant. The goal of frequencies is to plant the seeds of fulfillment rather than materialism.

You may be ruled by desire without realizing it. Do not let it erase the healing of your circuit.

You must take a stand against bondage. Where there is ego, health cannot thrive. Without being, one cannot grow.  
We are in the midst of a magical deepening of truth that will align us with the stratosphere itself. Our conversations with other seekers have led to a summoning of ultra-ethereal consciousness. We are at a crossroads of joy and desire.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-we-become-who-we-were-who-we-are-who-will-we-be/731624/140 "2015-09-21T23:07:19Z")

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> [@Lucretia](#):
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> We are at a crossroads of joy and desire.

Good time to buy a Roomba.

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