James VI of Scotland became also James I of England, wouldn’t the line of succession follow the same for both kingdoms from that point on? This would make Elizabeth II the rightful Queen of Scotland. BTW, in a year and 208 days Elizabeth II will pass Victory for the longest reigning monarch in Britain. I believe I’ve heard that Prince Charles is now the longest King-in-Waiting as well.
All very confusing to me …
What’s Sean Connery doing these days?
No, but I’m sure it would not be difficult to construct a genealogy going back to a past king of Scotland.
The better question is, if Scotland decides to grant the rest of the UK their independence, what monarch would England et al choose? It seems to me that since the Union consisted of the guy who was already King of Scotland becoming the King of England as well, it was Scotland conquering England, not the other way around.
If we are pushing for a Scottish noble, are there any that are really pushing for independence enough to be rewarded for their efforts with the monarchy?
If we consider going back to the Stuarts, could we go further back and find the descendents of Robert Bruce?
The Stuarts ARE descended from Robert Bruce. Robert II of Scotland’s mother was Marjorie, eldest daughter of Robert [the] Bruce.
I guess we could retroactively legitimate Charles II’s illegitimate son James Scott, the one who claimed that his mother was legally married to Charles II and was beheaded for trying to depose his uncle James II. In this case, the heir would appear to be Richard Scott, 10th Duke of Buccleuch and 12th Duke of Queensberry (his heir is 30-year-old Walter Scott, earl of Dalkeith). I doubt he speaks Gaelic, but he’d be a Scott for Scotland!
Choose Harry, and turn Scotland into a total party kingdom.
I hear they’re going to go with the very heroic (and winner of Wimbledon) Angus Podgorney.
If he’s not feeling up to it how about David Tennant?
A little late on that one - there are fewer than 100,000 speakers of Gaelic in Scotland and only about 60% are “native” speakers ( i.e. not learned in school ). At this point a Gaelic-speaking king would be virtually a foreigner, like a Basque-speaking king of France ;).
Ok, that would be fucking awesome.
Would a new monarch be called a regeneration?
Do you mean her?: Fiona Victory - Wikipedia
Or her?: Queen Victoria - Wikipedia
Hmm. I saw him in a simulcast of Richard II, and he seemed quite comfortable with a crown and throne: http://www.rsc.org.uk/whats-on/richard-ii/
Siam Sam:
Your mother, Trebek! Haw Haw!
Problem with David Tennant is that he’s no nationalist: “I had no great sense of nationalism when I was in Scotland, and I could never understand why the SNP were banging on about it.”
Henry VII of England had two kids, Henry VIII and Margaret Tudor. Margaret was married off to James IV of Scotland, When Henry VIII died, Edward VI was crowned, but he died without issue, so the crown reverted to Henry VIII’s oldest daughter, Mary I … who also died without issue.
Not things get weird …
The Catholic Church never recognized Henry VIII marriage to Anna Boleyn, so Elizabeth was illegitimate. Once Mary I died, we go back to Henry VII’s oldest daughter, Margaret, who’s son was James V of Scotland, who was already dead and had an oldest daughter Marie Stuart, aka Mary, Queen of the Scots.
Mary Stuart was Catholic and so completely unacceptable to Protestant England … so Elizabeth was crowned. Elizabeth died without issue, Mary Stuart was beheaded beforehand … and Mary’s boy, James VI was raised Protestant so he was crowned King of England, Wales, Ireland and already holding the crown of Scotland.
Oh, Mary Stuart was King Francis II of France’s widow as well.
In a nutshell … English and Scottish royalty of this era all came from Henry VII’s loins.
Perhaps someone else can fill in where it went from here …
I think Scotland needs a poet-king with a keen grasp of high finance. Long live King Ewan!: The Poet McTeagle - YouTube
Obscure German? Are you kidding? Pretty much EVERY obscure German royalty has some claim to the British throne, thanks to Queen Victoria and her family. Hell, almost every NON-obscure royalty has some claim as well. (Both reigning and pretenders)
Yes, BUT, as somenoe mentioned, James’s grandson, James II, was overthrown by his daughters. He had a son, who had issue (ever heard of Bonnie Prince Charlie?) So if they have descendents, they could also have a claim.
Good post, except that DBR should be BRD.
[ul][li]DDR = Deutsche Demokratische Republik = German Democratic Republic = GDR[/li][li]BRD = Bundesrepublik Deutschland = Federal Republic of Germany = FRG = FROG[/ul][/li]
The Wiki article on West Berlin has a good discussion in its legal status and citizenship sections.
Is Sir Malcolm Gregor Charles Mac Gregor of Mac Gregor in the running for King of Scotland?