# Who would win: James Bond vs Batman **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 26, 2002, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855 "2002-11-26T06:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/41 "2002-11-28T01:29:35Z")
Batman didn’t _want_ the girl. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/42 "2002-11-28T04:40:42Z")
So Bond is willing to kill- big freakin’ deal! So are Joker, Ras Al Ghul, Two Face, etc. Bats routinely goes up against opponents willing to kill. He’s been shot at by the best. He’s also survived poison gas, bombs, etc. ``` Secret Identity- Wayne's secret is rarely uncovered-lesssee OTTOMH-Killer Moth, Hugo Strange, Ras Al Ghul, Silver St Cloud, Tim Drake. OTOH Bond's true identity is uncovered by close to every villian he's ever faced. Gambling-If we're gonna get geeky- I refer everybody to (sadly I can't remember the episode's title) the animated series. A thinly-veiled Trump builds a Joker-themed casino. All the dealers wear Joker costumes. The real Joker turns up and deals blackjack. He cheats like crazy. Wayne plays blackjack and wins by cheating so expertly that even the Joker can't tell how he does it. Hand-to-hand- Just what is JB's training here? We know Bats has all kinds of blackbelts. The Sniper Option-This would work why exactly? Because all the times Deadshot, SWAT snipers etc have shot at him have worked so well? The many bombs, ambushes, etc have failed to take him unaware all these years but this will because? ``` ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/43 "2002-11-28T04:43:53Z")
Batman reformed the girl and married her, so there. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/44 "2002-11-28T04:49:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by capacitor \* > \*\*Batman reformed the girl and married her, so there. \*\* Only on Earth-2 ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/45 "2002-11-28T05:11:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \* > \*\*I thought that John Shaft had already claimed that moniker. \*\* You’re damn right! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/46 "2002-11-28T05:42:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lizard \* > \*\*You’re damn right! 😃 \*\* Shut your mouth! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/47 "2002-11-28T06:35:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Krokodil \* > \*\*Bond. His villains tend to have a lower recidivism rate; I don’t think he would’ve needed a second shot at the Joker, whereas Batman has tangled with him literally hundreds of times. \*\* Well, Bond would have dumped a pasty faced, green haired _someone_ down a chimney in the sequel to _Her Majesty’s Killing Joke_, to avenge Barbara Gordon’s being shot in the head, but due to copyright issues, the adversary wouldn’t actually have been named. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/48 "2002-11-28T12:59:05Z")
Another vote for the Fleming Bond (the stone-cold killer from the novels) here. Bats may wear Kevlar [is this true?], but he still has spots of vulnerability: his eyes and the lower half of his face. Bond only has to shoot him in the mouth, aiming for Batsy’s uvula. That shot would wipe out Batsy’s brainstem/lower cranium. Unless, of course, Bond is using his Barretta and it jams again. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/49 "2002-11-28T18:51:26Z")
You’re all forgetting that Batman is just a comicbook character, while James Bond is a _real guy_. Bond in a cakewalk. And he’d eat Mighty Mouse for dessert. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/50 "2002-11-29T02:05:58Z")
Batman’s kevlar only covers his upper torso. That cowl is not bulletproof. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/51 "2002-11-29T04:35:16Z")
Batman has Bat-sidekicks. Batman wins. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/52 "2002-11-29T05:05:08Z")
Bond has sidekicks; Felix Leiter and a different butt-kicking gal every movie. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/53 "2002-11-29T05:20:50Z")
On a slightly different tack, which of them has a better chance of surviving a ridiculously and uneccessarily complex deathtrap a villian puts them in and then walks away, expecting everything will work out all right? Eh, forget it. They’re both batting 1.000. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/54 "2002-11-29T05:23:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Krokodil \* > \*\*Bond has sidekicks; Felix Leiter and a different butt-kicking gal every movie. \*\* Yeah, but they’re not **Bat** -sidekicks. Makes all the difference, y’know. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2002, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/55 "2002-12-02T14:25:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DocCathode \* > \*\* > > ``` > Hand-to-hand- Just what is JB's training here? We know Bats has all kinds of blackbelts. > > ** > > ``` James Bond is a veteran of WWII comando experience as an ensign in the Royal Navy. We can assume the standard self-defense classes taught by grizzled sergant-majors in which Bond would have excelled. He would have been trained in knife-work, grappling and silent hand-to-hand killing techniques by veterans who knew what they were doing. He was a crack marksman. Even as a student Bond gained a reputation on his school’s boxing team and organized the first Judo club in an English public school. As a young man His steady nerves and willingness to kill in the line of duty earned him the coveted ‘double-O’ prefix. Say what you like about Batman, he didn’t go toe-to-toe against Hitler’s goons for King and country! Bounus points: Bond would beat the pants off of Wayne in golf! ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855/56 "2002-12-02T16:43:42Z")
In one of the movies, someone refers to the Roger Moore 007 as “Commander Bond”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-james-bond-vs-batman/138855.md?page=2)