# Who would you pick as the Republican Nominee in '08? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 2, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407 "2005-10-02T01:46:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/81 "2005-10-04T12:17:16Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Why do you think that? > > All that because of McCain-Feingold? Are Pub **voters** really that thoroughly hostile to the idea of CFR? Of course they are. Their idea of democracy is “One dollar, one vote.” ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/82 "2005-10-04T19:17:55Z")
McCain’s only chance of becoming president is to run as a Democrat. I’m puzzled by all the Rice stuff. Can anyone compile a list of things that Rice has actually done successfully while serving in public office (I mean, besides getting nominated and confirmed)? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/83 "2005-10-04T19:43:06Z")
I’d love to see some combination of Frist/Santorum/DeLay. In whatever order. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/84 "2005-10-04T19:55:34Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > McCain’s only chance of becoming president is to run as a Democrat. Why do you think so? > [@](#): > > I’m puzzled by all the Rice stuff. Can anyone compile a list of things that Rice has actually done successfully while serving in public office (I mean, besides getting nominated and confirmed)? Don’t hold your breath. I’ve already asked. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/85 "2005-10-04T20:35:43Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > I’m puzzled by all the Rice stuff. Can anyone compile a list of things that Rice has actually done successfully while serving in public office (I mean, besides getting nominated and confirmed)? I think it’s mainly about her overall philosophy (moderate) and her general intelligence level. Give us a list of the accomplishments of the last 3 Sec’s of State. Their accomplishments tend to be hard to distinguish from that of the overall administration. But your point is well taken and that’s why I don’t think she’s a good condidate for prez. Just for vice-prez. Of course, you and \*\*Elvis \*\*might have better luck over in the other thread asking Democrats to list the accomplishments of Obama and Edwards. Or Gore for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/86 "2005-10-04T22:35:03Z")
I salivate over the prospect of Ron Paul. I would vote for him even over Al Gore. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/87 "2005-10-04T22:51:21Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > I’d love to see some combination of Frist/Santorum/DeLay. In whatever order. :mad: Thank you for putting that image in my head. Where’s the brain bleach? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/88 "2005-10-04T22:52:37Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > I think it’s mainly about her overall philosophy (moderate) and her general intelligence level. Give us a list of the accomplishments of the last 3 Sec’s of State. Their accomplishments tend to be hard to distinguish from that of the overall administration. And when was the last time a Sec of State went on to become president? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/89 "2005-10-04T22:55:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And when was the last time a Sec of State went on to become president? I don’t know. I’m not recommendy Condi for prez, just v-prez. Once you’re v-prez all bets are off regarding your past career and its chances of landing you in the WH. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/90 "2005-10-04T22:59:05Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > I don’t know. I’m not recommendy Condi for prez, just v-prez. Once you’re v-prez all bets are off regarding your past career and its chances of landing you in the WH. Cite: George H. W. Bush ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/91 "2005-10-04T23:02:48Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Cite: George H. W. Bush And Nixon, and LBJ (both Senators before VP). ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/92 "2005-10-04T23:11:56Z")
No love for Elizabeth Dole? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/93 "2005-10-05T13:34:59Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > I think it’s mainly about her overall philosophy (moderate) and her general intelligence level. IOW, you can’t come up with anything either. > [@](#): > > Of course, you and \*\*Elvis \*\*might have better luck over in the other thread asking Democrats to list the accomplishments of Obama and Edwards. Or Gore for that matter. I haven’t promoted \*any \* of those names, nor to I expect to until 2007 at the earliest. But, since you think so highly of Wiki: Obama’s Edwards’ Gore’s FTR, the last SecState to become President was James Buchanan. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/94 "2005-10-05T14:05:38Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > FTR, the last SecState to become President was James Buchanan. Aha, the suspected-to-be gay president, eh? Hm … things are looking up for Rice, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/95 "2005-10-05T14:05:44Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > FTR, the last SecState to become President was James Buchanan. Well, we all know how well _he_ turned out, huh? 'Course, the man was a Democrat. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/96 "2005-10-05T15:37:06Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > IOW, you can’t come up with anything either. Why should I? I’m not proposing her for president. In fact, I explicitly said I didn’t think she was qualified for president. > [@](#): > > I haven’t promoted \*any \* of those names, nor to I expect to until 2007 at the earliest. I never said you did. > [@](#): > > FTR, the last SecState to become President was James Buchanan. Again, I’m not recommending her for prez. Yet. Maybe in the future, but not now. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/97 "2005-10-05T15:47:45Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Why should I? I’m sure you had your reasons for answering the question, then, even if you don’t choose to share them. > [@](#): > > I never said you did. Then why did you direct me to another thread for answers to a question I didn’t ask? > [@](#): > > Again, I’m not recommending her for prez. That was a factual answer to a factual question asked by **BrainGlutton**. Lighten up. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/98 "2005-10-05T16:29:43Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I’m sure you had your reasons for answering the question, then, even if you don’t choose to share them. Yes. I was explaining how a lot of people think, on both sides of the aisle. > [@](#): > > Then why did you direct me to another thread for answers to a question I didn’t ask? Since you seem so curious as to what motivates Rice supporters, I thought you might also be curious about Obama and Edwards supporters, too. And it adds to my explanation, per above, of Rice supporters-- ideology often trumps specific accomplishments. > [@](#): > > That was a factual answer to a factual question asked by **BrainGlutton**. Lighten up. That \*\*was \*\*light. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/99 "2005-10-06T04:03:14Z")
Katherine Harris! (I can only hope.) Seriously, the Pubbies’ cupboard seems pretty bare right now. McCain would have been a formidable opponent but I agree that his embracing of Bush since 2000 has been weird and “flip-floppy.” Condi? Seriously, what the… Do y’all seriously think see has a snowball’s chance? Even as a VP candidate I see it as highly unlikely. Though Elizabeth Dole as VP looks like it could work. Look to governors who can raise a shitload of money and have the connections necessary: Mike Huckabee Jeb Bush Mitt Romney I doubt ol’ Mitt will make it through two or three primaries. That leaves Huckabee and Jeb. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407/100 "2005-10-06T04:03:41Z")
Katherine Harris! (I can only hope.) Seriously, the Pubbies’ cupboard seems pretty bare right now. McCain would have been a formidable opponent but I agree that his embracing of Bush since 2000 has been weird and “flip-floppy.” Condi? Seriously, what the… Do y’all seriously think she has a snowball’s chance? Even as a VP candidate I see it as highly unlikely. Though Elizabeth Dole as VP looks like it could work. Look to governors who can raise a shitload of money and have the connections necessary: Mike Huckabee Jeb Bush Mitt Romney I doubt ol’ Mitt will make it through two or three primaries. That leaves Huckabee and Jeb. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-as-the-republican-nominee-in-08/324407.md?page=6)