# Who would you think are nicer people, Jeep owners or Subaru owners? (in FB Groups) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 16, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640 "2024-05-16T16:25:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/21 "2024-05-17T03:29:12Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Here, in the vast High Desert/Sierra Nevada’s, more open land than most folks can imagine. Criss-crossed by trails and dirt roads than a tank of gas can manage. And the drive is… All pavement. Jeep Club. That is pretty funny. To be entirely fair, while Jeep is synonymous with offroading in people’s minds, and I have no doubt that a lot of people choose Jeeps for that reason, not all Jeeps are particularly good at going offroad – many of them don’t even have four-wheel drive. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/22 "2024-05-17T03:37:02Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Foresters, Outbacks, the occasional Baja. Anybody with an SVX? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/23 "2024-05-17T03:52:47Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Anybody with an SVX? That is a tiny but passionate fanbase of people who are excited about [an obscure and somewhat underperforming grand tourer](https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a46972858/1992-subaru-svx-archive-test/). It was an interesting concept with good handling and a lot of technological innovations but hampered by inadequate acceleration, a weak transmission, and generally pretty forgettable today compared to the Mitsubishi 3000GT, the Nissan Z32 300ZX/Fairlady Z, and of course the Acura NSX. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/24 "2024-05-17T03:54:00Z")
I had the first Honda Insight, the early hybrid (pre-Prius) with the rear wheel skirts. (My kids laughed at it, and I said “At the end of the last century, THIS is what they thought the future would look like.”) Worst thing about it dying is that I miss the folks in that community. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/25 "2024-05-17T04:06:03Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > There are lots of jokes about how unreliable English cars are Like Lucas is the patron saint of darkness? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/26 "2024-05-17T04:12:54Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Like Lucas is the patron saint of darkness? Why do the British serve their beer warm? Because Lucas made refrigerators. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/27 "2024-05-17T04:13:45Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Here, in the vast High Desert/Sierra Nevada’s, more open land than most folks can imagine. Criss-crossed by trails and dirt roads than a tank of gas can manage. And the drive is… All pavement. Jeep Club. I see far more Tacomas, 4Runners, FJ Cuisers, and the pre-J100 Land Cruisers on forest trails and backroads than I do any Jeeps. There is a certainly a crowd that outfits CJs and Cherokees for rockcrawling but the vast majority of Jeeps never see gravel or dirt. Like “Harleys”, they’re now more of a market-oriented lifestyle than a practical vehicle. > [@digs](#): > > I had the first Honda Insight, the early hybrid (pre-Prius) with the rear wheel skirts. I rented a first generation Insight on _Okinawa-hontō_, carrying around a folding kayak, camera gear, and a variety of other hardware. I was cringing at how slow and difficult it might be to go to remote locations, but honestly it was perfectly fine. Of course you can’t exceed 45 mph anywhere on the island, and I think the highest point you can drive to is less than 400 m ASML, so it wasn’t exactly pushing automotive technology, but after almost a week of driving it cost me a pittance to “man-tan”. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/28 "2024-05-17T04:16:50Z")
I’ve heard “prince of darkness”. For those who don’t know, Lucas was the company that made the electrical components on English cars; things like headlights. The Indiana Jones filmed all began with the Paramount mountain logo, which would then dissolve to a shot of a real mountain, which would lead into the movie. Except the last one, which started with the Lucasfilm logo. I think it should have dissolved to the Lucas logo on an alternator or something, and then the camera pulls back to reveal Indy working on an English car. “Why do the British drink warm beer?” “Because they have Lucas refrigerators.” ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/29 "2024-05-17T04:39:02Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > For those who don’t know, Lucas was the company that made the electrical components on English cars; things like headlights. “A gentleman does not motor around after dark.” Sound advice to anyone who owns a Leyland, Triumph, Austin-Healey, Morris Motors, or pre-Ford Jaguar. Lucas Electronics almost literally brought the British automotive establishment back to the Dark Ages. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/30 "2024-05-17T04:41:26Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I’m just amused at the idea of a similar group for Honda drivers. The only thing we really have in common is not wanting to pay a lot of money for a car. Hey, “cheapskates” and “people who don’t actually care about cars” are definitely identifiable groups! Surely they must have dedicated FB groups! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/31 "2024-05-17T05:06:21Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > …not all Jeeps are particularly good at going offroad – many of them don’t even have four-wheel drive. Lots of ostensibly “off road” vehicles are not very good at it. Land Rover has gone in so much on luxury that some models would be terrible off-roading (nevermind whether taking such an expensive car off road is wise or not). A British billionaire has thought the same (that the off road cars today are too luxury oriented and not capable off-roaders) so he has built a new car that supposedly addresses this (although it is still nice inside). The [Ineos Grenadier](https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-ineos-grenadier-first-drive-review/) (you can find lots of other reviews). ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/32 "2024-05-17T05:29:02Z")
I’d bet the Ineos Owner’s Group would share their Grey Poupon. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/33 "2024-05-17T09:54:54Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > > > Foresters, Outbacks, the occasional Baja. > > Anybody with an SVX? Some of us are over on the thread for [What's the most interesting car you saw today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-most-interesting-car-you-saw-today/688889). There, only 3-4 SVXs have been spotted and reported in 10 years, and none by me. I haven’t seen an SVX in many years… And if I did, I seriously doubt it’d be driven by a lesbian. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/34 "2024-05-17T10:05:46Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > > …not all Jeeps are particularly good at going offroad – many of them don’t even have four-wheel drive. > > Lots of ostensibly “off road” vehicles are not very good at it. Land Rover has gone in so much on luxury that some models would be terrible off-roading (nevermind whether taking such an expensive car off road is wise or not). > > A British billionaire has thought the same (that the off road cars today are too luxury oriented and not capable off-roaders) so he has built a new car that supposedly addresses this (although it is still nice inside). > > The [Ineos Grenadier](https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-ineos-grenadier-first-drive-review/) (you can find lots of other reviews). Thanks for the Ineos Grenadier. Never heard of that before, and I’ll keep my eye out for them. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, some people buy some interesting cars. My last car, like I said earlier, was a Jeep Grand Cherokee. And my favorite photos of it (of us) are these. My wife and me camping in the middle of nowhere [![](https://i.imgur.com/ya6f6qd.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/ya6f6qd.jpeg) Desert camping in Nevada [![](https://i.imgur.com/1hxh4F6.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/1hxh4F6.jpeg) Front wheel up high [![](https://i.imgur.com/4MlPsda.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/4MlPsda.jpeg) I miss that Jeep. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/35 "2024-05-17T10:08:44Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > > [@GaryM](#): > > > > Like Lucas is the patron saint of darkness? > > Why do the British serve their beer warm? Because Lucas made refrigerators. Funny! ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/36 "2024-05-18T13:56:26Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Like Lucas is the patron saint of darkness? It’s usually “Prince of Darkness” in my experience. Lucas - Inventor of the intermittent wiper. Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp. The three position Lucas switch – Dim, Flicker and Off. The Lucas motto: “Get home before dark.” Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency. Anyway, I don’t know much about Subaru owners, but I do own a Jeep. The Jeep community in general is a very friendly bunch. It’s customary for Jeep owners to wave at other Jeep owners. If you don’t like to wave, or you’re just too lazy, my son’s girlfriend (who also owns a Jeep) sent me a link for a fake hand posed in the typical Jeep waving position that you can stick to your dashboard so it looks like you are waving. [![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61iZJGcjjNL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_DpWeblab_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61iZJGcjjNL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_DpWeblab_.jpg) There is also “Ducking” aka “Duck Duck Jeep”. This started out just as someone being friendly and putting rubber ducks on other Jeep owner’s vehicles. This quickly spread all across North America. These days if you own a Jeep, there’s a good possibility that at some point you’ll come out from a store or wherever and find that someone has left a rubber duck on your Jeep. Jeep owners typically display the ducks that they have received in their front window. So if you see a bunch of rubber ducks in a Jeep, that’s what it is all about. > **[What Is Jeep Ducking? | RealTruck](https://realtruck.com/blog/what-is-jeep-ducking/)** > > Our experts tackle one of the most recent phenomena in the Jeep community, including what it is, its roots, and how to participate! [![](https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2023/08/02/1140x_a10-7_cTC/duck28-c.jpg) ](https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2023/08/02/1140x_a10-7_cTC/duck28-c.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/37 "2024-05-18T13:59:53Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > The Jeep community in general is a very friendly bunch. It’s customary for Jeep owners to wave at other Jeep owners. There is a group of Jeep-owning women in the area who raised a bunch of money for my non-profit by having this big charity event with lots of Jeep people, so my feeling is generally positive. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/38 "2024-05-18T14:51:13Z")
And, in response, there is “moo moo, Suburu”: > **[What Is Moo Moo Subaru? | Capital One Auto Navigator](https://www.capitalone.com/cars/learn/finding-the-right-car/what-is-moo-moo-subaru/2968)** > > The trend of leaving toy cows on Subarus is taking off. My son-in-law found a cute rubber Holstein cow on his Suburu Legacy recently, with a friendly note to pass it along. It was extra funny because it happened on the agricultural research campus of our state land grant university, where we take cows **very** seriously (we have been known to call ourselves “the beef state”. I’ve put a down payment on a vintage Suburu Outback and will pick it up next week when (if?) State Farm gets the total loss settlement to me and I’m hoping to find a rubber cow on her some day. I will try to further the tradition of ‘nice’ Suburu owners. I habitually wear Birkenstocks, so I’m off to a good start. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/39 "2024-05-18T22:06:04Z")
So this meme just appeared on my Facebook feed. The people at Donut Media seem to think Jeep owners are the most insufferable by far, while Subaru owners are just a bit below average. [![](https://scontent.fsac1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/443818602_18414670384068397_5390179225032858933_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s600x600&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=GTlMAhxoQYMQ7kNvgHnq8fl&_nc_ht=scontent.fsac1-2.fna&oh=00_AYDjb8JwnoFeL0R-HGuaf9oz8ybqcyzufjBgqNeKw0vRKQ&oe=664EF90E) ](https://scontent.fsac1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/443818602_18414670384068397_5390179225032858933_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s600x600&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=GTlMAhxoQYMQ7kNvgHnq8fl&_nc_ht=scontent.fsac1-2.fna&oh=00_AYDjb8JwnoFeL0R-HGuaf9oz8ybqcyzufjBgqNeKw0vRKQ&oe=664EF90E) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640/40 "2024-05-18T22:10:21Z")
That’s funny and I also don’t know most of those symbols. Glad I’m fun to be around, though (Honda.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-think-are-nicer-people-jeep-owners-or-subaru-owners-in-fb-groups/1001640.md?page=3)