# Whom does God hate more: David Banner (TV's incredibe Hulk) or Rick Grimes (THE WALKING DEAD)? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 28, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648 "2016-06-28T21:24:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/1 "2016-06-28T21:24:17Z")
Usually when I say “God,” I mean “Athena,” but not today. If the Queen of Olympus, Mistress of War, Inventor of Inventing, and Castrator of Zeus felt one of these two was her enemy, she’d simply stomped on him with a beautiful divine foot and been done with it on Day One. But unfortunately for David and Rick, some other supernatural entity is running theeir universes, and man, does she, he, or it have it in for those two. But probably not to the same degree. Let’s discuss which. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/2 "2016-06-28T21:32:59Z")
I suddenly feel a compulsion to write some crossover fan fiction… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/3 "2016-06-28T21:37:48Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I suddenly feel a compulsion to write some crossover fan fiction… You do that. But David was dead years before the WD verse went full-on-FUBAR. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/4 "2016-06-28T22:08:04Z")
No, God only has a mild antipathy for Banner (haven’t seen The Walking Dead). God _hates_ Chief O’Brien, from _Star Trek_. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/5 "2016-06-29T13:07:19Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I suddenly feel a compulsion to write some crossover fan fiction… Next season’s WD already set that up. Expect Banner to say to Grimes,“You wouldn’t like me if I’m dead” ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/6 "2016-06-29T13:09:35Z")
I voted Rick. But it was a difficult choice because most of Rick’s problems have been caused by Rick making really really bad decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/7 "2016-06-29T13:21:43Z")
Now you’ve got me wondering what would happen when Banner/The Hulk dies. Would he stay the was he was when he dies or can zombies get pissed off and he would change back and forth. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/8 "2016-06-29T14:32:10Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > Now you’ve got me wondering what would happen when Banner/The Hulk dies. Would he stay the was he was when he dies or can zombies get pissed off and he would change back and forth. Was Hulk in MARVEL ZOMBIES? I don’t remember and refuse to read it again. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/9 "2016-06-29T15:02:16Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I suddenly feel a compulsion to write some crossover fan fiction… Incredible Hulk vs. The Walking Dead. I think I’d watch that. Shooting zombies has been overdone, tearing them limb-from-limb with your bare hands hasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/10 "2016-06-29T17:50:51Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > Now you’ve got me wondering what would happen when Banner/The Hulk dies. Would he stay the was he was when he dies or can zombies get pissed off and he would change back and forth. I can imagine a 75 year old Dr. Banner still becoming the Hulk with wispy white hair and a beard and carrying a cane. “AAAARRGHHH! PUNY TEENAGERS! GET OFF HULK’S LAWN! CANE SMASH HEADS!” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/11 "2016-06-30T08:51:36Z")
The Walking Dead is a tragic universe, while TV’s Incredible Hulk is pretty much a happy universe where things go right by the end. Sure, it may seem bad for a little while, but things always wind up working out. It’s kinda hard to call that a curse. Especially when, as you said, the guy involves himself in stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/12 "2016-07-02T06:58:16Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > God _hates_ Chief O’Brien, from _Star Trek_. Wait. . .am. . .am I GOD? If so, I’m clearly doing it wrong. Why wasn’t I notified? You all have my most sincere apologies. Please remain patient a little longer while I get this mess sorted out. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/13 "2016-07-02T09:42:26Z")
There is no hope in the _Walking Dead_. Eventually, and that means within a couple of decades, every human will be dead or immortally zombified. There is no cure on the horizon. Whereas David Banner was just one man who tried to help people. It sucked but the world he lived in had hope. Rick Grimes, or “Grimey” as he likes to be known, is the cursed one. And he deserves it, as from what I can tell he’s a bit of a dope, putting others at risk for stupid ill-thought-out reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/14 "2016-07-02T12:38:16Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > There is no hope in the _Walking Dead_. Eventually, and that means within a couple of decades, every human will be dead or immortally zombified. There is no cure on the horizon. > > Whereas David Banner was just one man who tried to help people. It sucked but the world he lived in had hope. > > Rick Grimes, or “Grimey” as he likes to be known, is the cursed one. And he deserves it, as from what I can tell he’s a bit of a dope, putting others at risk for stupid ill-thought-out reasons. Looking at your argument another wayL God hates everyone in the WD world; She’s not cursing Rick specifically. But in the Hulkverse, all Her … rage … is aimed straight at David, who, unlike Rick, never does anything to merit his suffering. ---
**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whom-does-god-hate-more-david-banner-tvs-incredibe-hulk-or-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead/758648/15 "2016-07-03T04:53:34Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I suddenly feel a compulsion to write some crossover fan fiction… The Inedible Walking Dead?