# Who's \_\_\_\_? X or Y

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 23, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580 "2008-04-23T19:04:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/61 "2008-04-25T18:40:52Z")

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Never mind this. Go with **Sternvogel** ’s.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/62 "2008-04-25T19:15:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Sternvogel]  
Ice T. Eminem was bigger at his peak, but will slip more precipitously.

Who has the seamier past, Ice T or 50 Cent?  
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Ice T. The man was a pimp. An actual pimp.

Who hads the better icy name Ice T or Ice Cube?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/63 "2008-04-25T19:20:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
I know next to nothing about rap and am curious about the “native tongue” of which you speak.

I seem to recall at least one each of “so bad they are good” movies involving both your candidates, but not enough to pick one as “done more.” So just to add a new name to the game,

Which rapper/actor is a better undercover cop type, LL Cool J or Ice T?  
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I will be happy to pm you some recomendations if you like.

In the meantime

[linky](http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:0xfexql0ld0e)

and [more linky](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Tongues)

I am not a huge hip hop fan, but rather a casual listener. I like a lot of the stuff this group of folks, and the people who followed them, did.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/64 "2008-04-25T19:37:12Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Ice T. The man was a pimp. An actual pimp.

Who hads the better icy name Ice T or Ice Cube?  
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Cube, for sure.

Who was more believable in _Boyz in the Hood_, Cube or Cuba?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/65 "2008-04-25T19:39:05Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
I will be happy to pm you some recomendations if you like.

In the meantime

[linky](http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:0xfexql0ld0e)

and [more linky](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Tongues)

I am not a huge hip hop fan, but rather a casual listener. I like a lot of the stuff this group of folks, and the people who followed them, did.  
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Thanks for the links. That’ll satisfy my curiosity for the time being.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/66 "2008-04-25T19:47:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
…Who was more believable in _Boyz in the Hood_, Cube or Cuba?  
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Cube. No contest.

Who is the better actor, Ice Cube or Sir Ian McKellen?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/67 "2008-04-25T19:59:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Cube. No contest.

Who is the better actor, Ice Cube or Sir Ian McKellen?  
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Depending on the role, both can hold their own pretty well. I’d enjoy seeing them swap some roles, though. 😃

Just to get a new name moving, I’ll say Ian, just for giggles.

Which Ian makes a better impression with his craft, Ian McKellen or Ian Fleming?

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/68 "2008-04-25T20:06:00Z")

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Fleming, hands down  
Okay - next logical question: who was the best classic Bond?  
Sean Connery or Roger Moore?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/69 "2008-04-25T20:12:21Z")

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[QUOTE=anyrose]  
Fleming, hands down  
Okay - next logical question: who was the best classic Bond, Sean Connery or Roger Moore?  
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Sean. Roger pales by comparison.

Who’s the better Bond, Connery or Daniel Craig?

BTW – thanks for the logical leap! Good idea. Let’s dump the “must reuse your selected name” rule in favor of the “logical link” approach. Whichever “rule” feels better at the time. Some “dead ends” are better sidestepped, I think.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/70 "2008-04-25T20:38:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
BTW – thanks for the logical leap! Good idea. Let’s dump the “must reuse your selected name” rule in favor of the “logical link” approach.  
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:smack: I didn’t realize you’d imposed a rule. 😃

[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
Who’s the better Bond, Connery or Daniel Craig?  
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Haven’t seen Craig, so I gotta say Connery  
which leads me back to my “same basic character in every movie” question: Connery or Caine?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/71 "2008-04-25T20:41:29Z")

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[QUOTE=anyrose]  
:smack: I didn’t realize you’d imposed a rule. 😃  
Haven’t seen Craig, so I gotta say Connery  
which leads me back to my “same basic character in every movie” question: Connery or Caine?  
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In that both of them have strong idiosyncracies and do tend to play “within type” this is hard to be fair about. I believe Mike has stretched a bit further but you have to consider Sean in his non-Bond roles, too.

I’ll settle on Caine.

Who’s the better Alfie, Caine or Jude Law?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/72 "2008-04-25T21:03:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
In that both of them have strong idiosyncracies and do tend to play “within type” this is hard to be fair about. I believe Mike has stretched a bit further but you have to consider Sean in his non-Bond roles, too.

I’ll settle on Caine.

Who’s the better Alfie, Caine or Jude Law?  
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Caine. I liked Jude Law, but he isn’t really Alfie.

Who has made more “only in it for the money” movies Caine or DeNeiro (a real topic of conversation in the lunchroom at my office today 😃 )

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/73 "2008-04-25T21:09:54Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Caine. I liked Jude Law, but he isn’t really Alfie.

Who has made more “only in it for the money” movies Caine or DeNeiro (a real topic of conversation in the lunchroom at my office today 😃 )  
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I’ll say Caine, only because he brags about all the “shite” he’s done. Objectively though, it’s at least a tossup.

Whose real name, Maurice Micklewhite or Joe Yule (Mickey Rooney), is most out-of-character?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/74 "2008-04-26T18:54:36Z")

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Yule. Who’s more enduringly annoying, Mickey Rooney or Roseanne Barr Arnold NKA Roseanne?

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/75 "2008-04-26T19:02:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Yule. Who’s more enduringly annoying, Mickey Rooney or Roseanne Barr Arnold NKA Roseanne?  
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Mickey.

Who’s taller, Mickey Rooney or Tom Cruise?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/76 "2008-04-26T19:46:14Z")

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[QUOTE=FilmGeek]  
Who’s taller, Mickey Rooney or Tom Cruise?  
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Cruise. Mickey was shorter to begin with, and he’s probably shrunk a bit with age.

Who’s the scarier Scientologist, Cruise or John Travolta?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/77 "2008-04-26T20:48:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Sternvogel]  
Who’s the scarier Scientologist, Cruise or John Travolta?  
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Cruise.

Who’s the freakier 90s heart throb turned raving lunatic, Cruise or Mel Gibson?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/78 "2008-04-26T21:03:48Z")

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I’m going with Cruise. Gibson at least has the excuse that he was born in a crazy cult and Cruise has the whole weird Katie Holmes thing going on.

Which Tom will earn more money over the course of his career: Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks?

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/79 "2008-04-26T22:00:23Z")

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must. break. chain.  
I’d say Hanks, anyway, because of his production company. Has Cruise even tried directing yet?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-____-x-or-y/446580/80 "2008-04-27T02:16:41Z")

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