# Who's more delusional - the Obama birthers or the moon landing deniers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119 "2009-07-24T13:46:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/201 "2009-08-01T16:09:36Z")
No, it’s Carl Orff’s _Carmina Burana_. [Here’s a video cite](http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=30092916). ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/202 "2009-08-01T16:25:55Z")
Here are some more videos of the same except from Orff’s _Carmina Burana_, available on the web, which to someone who listens can easily be perceived as the same music as in the Hannity idiot-video: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwqvPSHgRao) [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84mdZBOJmAA) [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mF0od3zrl4) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QEllLECo4OM/maxresdefault.jpg "Carl Orff: CARMINA BURANA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEllLECo4OM) The sad thing is, I actually detest this piece of music … ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/203 "2009-08-01T16:37:08Z")
Whatever it is, it’s used in the Omen, and that’s why Hannity chose it. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/204 "2009-08-01T17:01:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Whatever it is, it’s used in the Omen, and that’s why Hannity chose it. This I won’t dispute. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/205 "2009-08-01T19:13:05Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > [When Ann Coulter calls you a crank, it’s definitely time to increase the dosage.](http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/07/ann-coulter-says-obamas-birth.html) But note that she blames the whole issue on the main-stream media: > [@](#): > > Coulter blamed the Mainstream Media’s lack of in-depth reporting on Obama for the rise of those who believe there has been a conspiracy to keep the truth from the American people on the issue of Obama’s birth. It’s not the loonies’ fault - they’ve [del]been mislead by[/del]\* not been properly informed by the Main-Stream Media! Obviously, this is a deep plot by the MSM to make the right look loonie! - with the right verbing, everything is the MSM’s fault, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/206 "2009-08-01T19:21:18Z")
Out of curiosity, who is the most prominent right-wing figure in American politics (be they an elected official or a nationally-known pundit or other) who had said flat-out with no qualifications that birthers are fulla crap? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/207 "2009-08-01T21:21:25Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Out of curiosity, who is the most prominent right-wing figure in American politics (be they an elected official or a nationally-known pundit or other) who had said flat-out with no qualifications that birthers are fulla crap? Surprisingly enough, the Coultergeist [called them “cranks”.](http://www.thefoxnation.com/media/2009/07/27/ann-coulter-birthers-are-wrong) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/208 "2009-08-01T22:02:45Z")
Well, Northern Piper’s link shows her speaking in their defense as well, blaming the media. I meant someone more like Huckabee in that clip, but even more dismissive. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/209 "2009-08-03T19:39:57Z")
The laughs never stop. Apparently Orly Taitz got her hands on [Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/kenyan-birth-certificate_n_249850.html). Interesting they are willing to accept this one as real (despite numerous flaws) but not find Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate as real. The cognitive dissonance necessary boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/210 "2009-08-04T03:05:02Z")
Orly was on MSNBC, and one of her statements during her meltdown was that for Obama to be a citizen, both of his parents wold have had to be citizens. I am disappointed in the talking heads for not calling her on that. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/211 "2009-08-04T07:49:30Z")
I love that her name is ‘O RLY?’ She was pretty funny on MSNBC, what a crazy person. Though I think she’s kind of hot. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/212 "2009-08-04T10:26:04Z")
I read somewhere yesterday that Taitz has now left the country after filing the bogus Obama birth certificate with the courts. Looking for confirmation of this. This story becomes wackier by the day. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/213 "2009-08-04T10:38:47Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I love that her name is ‘O RLY?’ Seeing as she’s from Moldavia, originally, my guess is that she was born an Olga. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/214 "2009-08-04T19:03:50Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The cognitive dissonance necessary boggles the mind. Cognitive dissonance is believing in two contradictory positions at the same time. That’s one to two more ideas than these people are having. They’re just idiots who will cling to anything supporting their belief. Giving them credit for one idea is being kind, I think, but crediting them with two or more is unsupportable. As a hero of mine used to say, they’re stupid, full of shit, _and_ fucking nuts. Happy birthday to our first Kenyan president, by the way. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/215 "2009-08-04T19:08:49Z")
I saw someone (it may have been here on the SDMB) suggest that perhaps Orly’s some sort of Andy Kaufmanesque-performer playing a huge joke at the expense of the birthers. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119/216 "2009-08-04T19:25:59Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The laughs never stop. Apparently Orly Taitz got her hands on [Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/kenyan-birth-certificate_n_249850.html). > > Interesting they are willing to accept this one as real (despite numerous flaws) but not find Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate as real. > > The cognitive dissonance necessary boggles the mind. According to wikipedia, Kenya has 2 official languages: Swahili and English. Are all their official documents in English only? Anyone know? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-delusional-the-obama-birthers-or-the-moon-landing-deniers/504119.md?page=10)