# Who's more likely to have a violent convention, Dems or GOP?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 19, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185 "2016-05-19T20:51:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/41 "2016-05-21T23:15:37Z")

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My guess is neither one will be violent, but only because Trump and his gang of neo-Nazis are solidly on track for the nomination. The GOP is the party that is most bitterly divided at top levels, but the GOP establishment isn’t going to shoot the place up, and neither are the Bernie kids. But heaven forbid, if anyone tries to displace Trump, we’ve already seen what his thugs can do, even when NOT provoked. Take their demagogue away, and it won’t just be the convention that’s violent, it’ll be whole cities.

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> OK, I’ve got some time on my hands, who would have won the popular vote IF the DNC leadership had treated Bernie and his supporters fairly from the very beginning?

So you think that Hillary is winning based on the alleged favoritism of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and otherwise it might have been Bernie? You must know an awful lot more socialists than I do! 😃

I also had no idea that the chair of the party was that awesomely powerful. So how come Prince Reibar couldn’t do a damn single thing to block Trump, even though Trump was sending the entire party establishment into conniption fits?

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/42 "2016-05-22T01:58:08Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The Democrat party . . .

Oh boy. That told me I could ignore the rest of the post and not miss anything worth reading.

As far as the OP’s question goes, I rather doubt there will be serious riot type trouble at either convention. No doubt there will be protesters who will embarrass their cause(s) by acting out, but that’s getting to be pretty normal.

Sanders has already said Clinton would make a better president on her worst day than Trump on his best. He’ll endorse Clinton and the Democratic Convention will be as pre-determined as the Republican.

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Ego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/49beb7/32.png) [@Omega\_Ego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Ego)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/43 "2016-05-22T16:15:07Z")

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Even Trump claims that Bernie’s supporters are the most violent.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/44 "2016-05-22T19:03:58Z")

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Trump claiming something usually has no actual relation with truth, especially considering that he has a vested interest in that very statement.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/45 "2016-05-22T19:29:08Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Two points:
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> 1. The DSS can forbid them all they want. I still think the smart money is on guns being inside the Hall. It’s too key a part of the GOP platform to not have a bunch of people make the effort.
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> 2. Anger like that isn’t satisfied that easily. It won’t go away just because Trump got the nomination. There’s still a lot of resentment bubbling under the surface just waiting for its chance to erupt.

You should be a writer for Netflix House of Cards. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/46 "2016-05-24T02:19:43Z")

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At this point, I’d say the dems. Sanders has lost fair and square, there is no way he could ever catch up to Hillary in pledged delegates. But I think some of his supporters are going to rebel against Hillary.

Trump, so long as he actually gets the nomination he earned, probably won’t see rioting. However if the GOP attempts to take it away and anoint someone else, that’ll cause issues.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/47 "2016-05-24T02:48:16Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [There were metal detectors](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-service-weighs-in-on-petition-calling-for-guns-at-gop-convention/) at their last convention, so it’s pretty much certain there will be this time, too.

Not just metal detectors, either. I work in downtown Tampa. Downtown Tampa was very nearly shut down for the 2012 Pub Convention. Defcon 1, it was. Cops were everywhere, streets were closed, traffic was diverted, the courthouses and all the local-government offices were closed, most businesses had to close, every window near the ground had metal plates over it – it was like they were afraid al-Qaeda would strike or something.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/48 "2016-05-24T02:59:50Z")

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Two months ago, the answer would have been GOP for sure. But now that it looks like Trump has locked down the GOP nomination, there might not be much to fight about. So it looks like Bernie supporters at the Democratic convention.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-likely-to-have-a-violent-convention-dems-or-gop/755185/49 "2016-05-24T03:08:14Z")

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> [@dracoi](#):
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> The violence doesn’t have to be the delegates themselves. A bunch of protestors outside (especially if they are protesting _being outside_) can make things plenty violent.

Although that happens at every convention. I had a friend in St. Paul government when the GOP convention was here. There were plenty of arrests.

There is a group of people that protest. They may be the Phelpsians, or the Tea Party or the anti-WTO crowd or the BLM people - and sometimes it steps over the line into violence.

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