# Who's more screwed up, Milhouse or Butters? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 11, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035 "2005-03-11T15:44:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/1 "2005-03-11T15:44:24Z")
If I had to pick one I’d say Butters. Milhouse has his share of problems, but at least he has Bart as a friend, which keeps him at least partially grounded. I don’t think Butters really has any friends, save that “Simpsons did it!” kid. What say you? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/2 "2005-03-11T15:48:01Z")
I don’t think that Milhouse has killed anyone. Butters has killed, what 12 or 13 people. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/3 "2005-03-11T15:48:50Z")
Milhouse’s parents are divorced and his father is a loser. However, Butters’ mom tried to kill him, and his father had a lot of anonymous gay sex at bathhouses and movie theaters. Plus, Milhouse has never killed multiple people while attempting to tap-dance. Poor Butters is definitely more screwed-up. He might be my favorite character on South Park, though. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/4 "2005-03-11T15:51:55Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > I don’t think that Milhouse has killed anyone. Butters has killed, what 12 or 13 people. Twice! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/5 "2005-03-11T15:56:04Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > Butters has killed, what 12 or 13 people. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/6 "2005-03-11T15:58:02Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Twice! No. He got 7 or 8 the first time and 5 or 6 the second. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/7 "2005-03-11T16:37:18Z")
Who is Butters? I’ve seen nearly every _The Simpsons_ episode, and I don’t remember any character called “Butters.” ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/8 "2005-03-11T16:38:17Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Milhouse’s parents are divorced and his father is a loser. However, Butters’ mom tried to kill him, and his father had a lot of anonymous gay sex at bathhouses and movie theaters. Plus, Milhouse has never killed multiple people while attempting to tap-dance. Poor Butters is definitely more screwed-up. He might be my favorite character on South Park, though. There’s just something so funny about seeing him tormented continuously. Something to do with his agreeable good nature. Like in the episode where the boys gave him liposuction. ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/9 "2005-03-11T16:40:11Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > Who is Butters? I’ve seen nearly every _The Simpsons_ episode, and I don’t remember any character called “Butters.” Butters is on “South Park.” ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/10 "2005-03-11T16:40:32Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > Who is Butters? I’ve seen nearly every _The Simpsons_ episode, and I don’t remember any character called “Butters.” - > [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > He might be my favorite character on **South Park** - ---
**Author:** ![tremorviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tremorviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tremorviolet)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/11 "2005-03-11T16:41:33Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > Who is Butters? I’ve seen nearly every _The Simpsons_ episode, and I don’t remember any character called “Butters.” Butters is from South Park, not Simpsons. Personally, I think Millhouse will be more screwed up because of their essential natures. Milhouse knows he’s a pathetic loser and strives to be more which torments him. He’s already bitter and will become more biter. Butters is just a placid, easy-going guy who’ll roll with the punches. No matter how awful the things ar that happen to him, he’ll just go back to his relatively sweet, untroubled self if he has the chance. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/12 "2005-03-11T16:56:38Z")
> [@tremorviolet](#): > > Butters is from South Park, not Simpsons. > > Personally, I think Millhouse will be more screwed up because of their essential natures. Milhouse knows he’s a pathetic loser and strives to be more which torments him. He’s already bitter and will become more biter. Butters is just a placid, easy-going guy who’ll roll with the punches. No matter how awful the things ar that happen to him, he’ll just go back to his relatively sweet, untroubled self if he has the chance. You sure you didn’t get them reversed? ---
**Author:** ![tremorviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tremorviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tremorviolet)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/13 "2005-03-11T17:06:49Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > You sure you didn’t get them reversed? Totally. We’ve seen episodes of the Simpsons where Millhouse is bitter over his parents divorce and even flashes to the future where he’s a pathetic loser just like his dad. But everytime we first see Butters, he’s usually just happily puttering around in his room. Of course, I guess his Professor Chaos (I can’t remember if that’s the correct name) alter ego points to a possible troubled inner nature but I think Butters will be able to repress the horrible things that happen to him and live quite obliviously far better than Millhouse. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/14 "2005-03-11T17:35:22Z")
> [@tremorviolet](#): > > Totally. I guess his Professor Chaos… alter ego The confusion may arrise from Professor Chaos being dismayed that each of his evile schemes had already been implemented on the Simpsons. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/15 "2005-03-11T17:58:09Z")
Probably Butters. Along with killing numerous people, he’s also got a Ninja star in his eye, and his parents tried to sell him to Paris Hilton. Millhouse has got nothing on them. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/16 "2005-03-11T18:05:46Z")
Let’s not forget, we’ve seen evidence that Milhouse is in therapy and is taking a lot of medication. I think he’s been in therapy since before his parents split up, but I’m not entirely sure about that. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/17 "2005-03-11T18:05:53Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > and his parents tried to sell him to Paris Hilton. Crap, I miss all the good episodes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Teelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Teelo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teelo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/18 "2005-03-11T18:08:57Z")
Millhouse never had a shuriken thrown into his eye. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/19 "2005-03-11T20:40:57Z")
Why is Milhouse even in the running? RALPH is the man that should go agsint Butters… Butters seems normal compared to Ralph. I’d rather have a shuriken through one eye, than to have both of my eyes be lazy in the same summer. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035/20 "2005-03-11T20:43:11Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I think he’s been in therapy since before his parents split up, but I’m not entirely sure about that. He had been in therapy since before the ‘Sideshow Bob’s Last Gleaming’ episode. He was ranting about it in the airplane cockpit - just before he hit the eject button. FTR the episode aired in '95. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-more-screwed-up-milhouse-or-butters/294035.md?page=2)