I’ve gotten several. But the last two that I can recall happened just days from each other.
85 in a 70
80 in a 65
Both going 15 miles over. I learned my lesson. 10 miles over and you’re golden. And I’ve lived happily ever after.
I’ve gotten several. But the last two that I can recall happened just days from each other.
85 in a 70
80 in a 65
Both going 15 miles over. I learned my lesson. 10 miles over and you’re golden. And I’ve lived happily ever after.
My father HAS gotten a ticket for going exactly 2 mph over the limit. At this point he’d received a few tickets, and if he got one more point on his license, he was gonna lose it. He’d been extremely careful for months since his last ticket, and was merging lanes. Poof, 2mph over, and he was clocked.
Now, my dad’s first language isn’t English, but he barely has an accent; it mostly shows up in his sentence structure. So he starts to explain to the officer “Officer, I can’t afford this ticket…(I’ve gotten several but I’ve amended my driving these last few months, if I get one more point I"ll lose my license)” but he didn’t get to the parenthesis part because the cop cut him off to say “Oh sir, I think you can afford any ticket”. My dad was driving a nice, new luxury car, and lost his shit for the cop’s response.
It’s all about revenue, baby. Toyota Corolla’s don’t get stopped as much as Audi A8’s.
I assume you have some statistics to back up your claim? These statistics would show not only the number of Corollas and A8s stopped, but also the number stopped relative to each car’s population on the road, and relative to the amount of speeding done by the owners of these cars.
One speeding ticket in my life (about 40 warnings, :eek:, knocking on wood).
I had a speeding ticket knocked down to defective equipment. when i showed up to pay the fine, a lawyer friend was in the courthouse and got it knocked to a noisy muffler.
I was clocked going 72 mph in a 55 mph back in the early 80’s when I was in college. Just north of Macon Ga.
The CHP will ticket for anything over the speed limit, but do not usually do so if it is within the flow of traffic.
Top 10 and bottom 10 ticketed cars.
4 of the 10 are luxury cars, 5 of the 10 are expensive (I’m including the sporty Solara). The other 5 cars of the top 10 list are very popular, so their popularity is impacting with the numbers - 3 Scions, the Subaru Outback and the Toyota Matrix.
But clearly, having a nice car fucks you over. Incidentally, my dad was driving an new turbo A4 when he went through a spate of tickets.
4 of the 10 are luxury cars, 5 of the 10 are expensive (I’m including the sporty Solara). The other 5 cars of the top 10 list are very popular, so their popularity is impacting with the numbers - 3 Scions, the Subaru Outback and the Toyota Matrix.
Actually, their popularity should not be a factor, because the figures in your link are based on citations per 100,000 miles driven. This effectively corrects for the fact that there are far more of some cars than others on the road. As the authors of the study note on their website:
Violations were standardized based on the number of violations per 100,000 miles driven for each model. That standardization accounts for the differences in average annual miles driven by different models. Each vehicle model’s violation count per 100,000 miles was compared with the average across all the models to identify the 10 models with the highest and lowest violations, as compared to the average. For example, Hummer drivers were 4.63 times more likely to get a ticket, as compared to the average.
If you’re going to offer figures that claim to support your wild-ass assertions, it would behoove you to understand what those figures are actually saying.
Even more importantly, those figures in no way support your assertion that traffic infractions are only about revenue, or that expensive cars are targeted by police more diligently than cheap cars. To draw such a conclusion, you would have to know not only how frequently each type of car gets a ticket, but also how the owners of those cars drive.
If, for example, owners of a particular type of car are more likely than the average driver to speed or to drive recklessly, then it would stand to reason that this type of car would be ticketed more frequently. This need not have anything to do with how expensive the car is, or police attitudes to expensive cars. The study makes this quite clear in its attempt to account for the presence of cheaper cars like the Scions and the Matrix:
According to Toyota, the Scion tC’s average customer is under 25 years old, and the Scion demographic skews to early 30s. Youth typically does correlate with a higher incidence of violations, and Toyota’s popularity with youthful drivers may partially explain this new-found notoriety.
Even the more expensive Hummers are not, according to the study, on the list just because they are expensive:
“The sense of power that Hummer drivers derive from their vehicle may be directly correlated with the number of violations they incur,” said Dr. Raj Bhat, president of Quality Planning. “Or perhaps Hummer drivers, by virtue of their driving position, are less likely to notice road hazards, signs, pedestrians, and other drivers.”
And while there are two expensive Mercedes Benz cars on the list, their price is probably less of a factor than the fact that these are both 480 horsepower, 6.2 liter V-8 supercars capable of going from 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds.
The least-ticketed car on the road is the Jaguar XJ series; not exactly a budget automobile. Same with the Buick Park Avenue. Again, as the study suggests, this probably has a lot to do with the type of driver who tends to own these cars:
For example, the Jaguar XJ and Buick Park Avenue are often driven by mature, experienced drivers who are more focused on comfort and driving experience than on personal expression.
While this study and its conclusions are probably not the be-all and end-all of traffic violation statistics, this is the study you chose to support your claim. But the study in no way demonstrates what you seem to think it demonstrates. All you’ve prove so far is that you don’t really have much of an idea about how to read the study.
But clearly, having a nice car fucks you over. Incidentally, my dad was driving an new turbo A4 when he went through a spate of tickets.
Absent any other information, all that tells us is that your father is prone to speed when behind the wheel of a powerful European sports sedan.
Even the more expensive Hummers are not, according to the study, on the list just because they are expensive:And while there are two expensive Mercedes Benz cars on the list, their price is probably less of a factor than the fact that these are both 480 horsepower, 6.2 liter V-8 supercars capable of going from 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds.
So you’re saying that because the Benz’s are capable of going 0-60 quickly, that’s why they’re ticketed? Care to back up your wild ass assertion? Price IS a factor. You’re absolutely right about the Scions, however. Young people do drive them, and do get nailed. I’ve never seen anyone back up speeding tickets with such voracity; perhaps you’re a cop or have one in your family?
The least-ticketed car on the road is the Jaguar XJ series; not exactly a budget automobile. Same with the Buick Park Avenue. Again, as the study suggests, this probably has a lot to do with the type of driver who tends to own these cars:While this study and its conclusions are probably not the be-all and end-all of traffic violation statistics, this is the study you chose to support your claim. But the study in no way demonstrates what you seem to think it demonstrates. All you’ve prove so far is that you don’t really have much of an idea about how to read the study.
Wait, what? The Buick isn’t in the league as a Jaguar is. But again, just as with the Scions/Matrix having to do with age, the Jag has almost exclusively old drivers, AND it’s just one of the bottom ten ticketed, yet you feel the urge to stress it in your defense. I do appreciate the fact that you decided that I can’t read a study because, comically enough, you decided to focus on the 5 cars that are driven mostly by young people rather than the 5 luxury cars.
But clearly, having a nice car fucks you over. Incidentally, my dad was driving an new turbo A4 when he went through a spate of tickets.
Absent any other information, all that tells us is that your father is prone to speed when behind the wheel of a powerful European sports sedan.
Absolutely. He’s a detriment to society by going 2 mph over the limit. He should be drawn and quartered and never allowed to do another colonoscopy ever again.
So you’re saying that because the Benz’s are capable of going 0-60 quickly, that’s why they’re ticketed? Care to back up your wild ass assertion? Price IS a factor.
I’m not saying that the acceleration of the Benz 63 is the only factor in getting ticketed. I’m simply saying that its power and speed are just as likely as its price in determining whether it will get ticketed, and that its power and speed are more likely than its price to determine whether the owners of such cars break the speed limit. You have yet to demonstrate that there is any connection between the likelihood of a police officer issuing a ticket and the price of the car.
You’re absolutely right about the Scions, however. Young people do drive them, and do get nailed.
So, what determines the likelihood of getting ticketed, then? Is it the price of the car, or is it the way the car is being driven?
I’ve never seen anyone back up speeding tickets with such voracity; perhaps you’re a cop or have one in your family?
What do you mean “back up speeding tickets”? I’m not doing that. All i’m doing is pointing out that your assertion about the correlation between tickets and the price of the car is, at best, completely unproven, and, at worst, complete horseshit.
Wait, what? The Buick isn’t in the league as a Jaguar is. But again, just as with the Scions/Matrix having to do with age, the Jag has almost exclusively old drivers, AND it’s just one of the bottom ten ticketed, yet you feel the urge to stress it in your defense. I do appreciate the fact that you decided that I can’t read a study because, comically enough, you decided to focus on the 5 cars that are driven mostly by young people rather than the 5 luxury cars.
The difference is that YOU are the one making the assertion that the police focus on expensive cars. But the statistics you linked to simply do not support your claim, and your complete inability to understand that fact suggests that you have no clue about how to draw conclusions from data, and no clue about what the limitations of such a study might be.
Your original assertion was that “having a nice car fucks you over.” The implication here is that police deliberately ticket more expensive vehicles, whether they deserve it or not. But if the drivers of expensive vehicles tend to break the road rules more often than the drivers of cheap vehicles, then the higher rate of ticketing for expensive vehicles is not a function of police attention, but simply a function of driver behavior.
Here’s a simple question: Do you understand the difference between these two statements:
Expensive cars tend to receive more tickets than cheaper cars.
Police tend to target expensive cars more often than cheap cars, even when they both commit the same infractions.
If you understand the difference between them (i’m not optimistic), perhaps you’d be so good as to make clear which of these statements you believe to be true. Number 1, number 2, or both?
Your previous arguments suggest that you believe both statements to be true, but i just want to be clear about what you believe before deciding whether you’re just making a confused argument, or whether you literally don’t have a clue.
Absolutely. He’s a detriment to society by going 2 mph over the limit. He should be drawn and quartered and never allowed to do another colonoscopy ever again.
To be quite honest, i don’t believe you that every ticket he received was for going 2 over.
And it seems that colonoscopies must be a family business for you. After all, it seems that you’re getting your arguments from the same place that your dad gets his income.
I’ve received two speeding tickets here in So. Cal., but it’s been like 15 years since the last one. I don’t remember how fast I was going, but I’ve honestly never been a crazy speeder, even as a teenager, so I doubt they were more than 5-10 miles over the limit. I continue to drive a little over the limit like that, just like everyone else on the freeways. I would guess you’re right, that they’re ticketing less for such a small amount over the limit, but I have no data to back that up.
The last one was going down the 5, around Glendale. The first one, probably 20 years ago, was in Rancho Cucamonga. No matter how much fun it is to say the name of their city, I still haven’t forgiven them.
I got one doing 73 in a 65 in rural Illinois. Yeah, sucky. It was the end of the month (they’re trying to meet quotas) and I had Wisconsin plates. But it wasn’t a big fine. It was more obnoxious than anything.
I got one doing 73 in a 65 in rural Illinois. Yeah, sucky. It was the end of the month (they’re trying to meet quotas) and I had Wisconsin plates. But it wasn’t a big fine. It was more obnoxious than anything.
Ah, reminds me of my first ticket. Driving my car (Pennsylvania plates) out to Southern California. In South Dakota, I get stopped in speed trap doing, mmm, I think 83 in a 65 zone. I had been doing 75, and there was this sudden drop off. I was braking, but not enough. There was literally nothing for 50 miles in either directions.
The cop pulls me and my then-boyfriend over. I’m on the verge of tears. The boyfriend had egged me on the drive faster, as fast as he had been driving (we’d just switched off). The cop asks me to get out of the car (I’d never have done this now, but I was a naive 18 year old) and sit in his car. Then boyfriend didn’t even look back once - I could have been raped and he’d never have known. Should have dumped him on the spot, saving years of anguish. Anyways, the cop grills me about why I was speeding, was I in a hurry, where was I going, etc. Complete invasion of privacy, and I had a completely clean record. Anyways, the last straw was him asking “So is that your husband?..” and I responded “Just a friend”. Didn’t want a reckless driving charge because I was driving while unmarried :rolleyes:.
I paid the ticket in the motel that night and mailed it from the front desk. No points.
I was caught doing 105 in a 65 in Virginia about three years ago. I was fined $500.00 and received a week’s stay in jail.
And it seems that colonoscopies must be a family business for you. After all, it seems that you’re getting your arguments from the same place that your dad gets his income.
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I’ve received. . . three speeding tickets since I turned 18 (well, I mean, ever, but we’ll say in the last 6 years).
The first was going 68 in a 65 (no, really- I thought there was some sort of buffer, but apparently not) and was $400. It was in Coalinga, CA and was a huge speed trap-- they were pulling over lines and lines of cars.
Jesus christ, $400 for going three miles over the speed limit? I would have fought the fuck out of that ticket. That’s ridiculous.
I was caught doing 105 in a 65 in Virginia about three years ago. I was fined $500.00 and received a week’s stay in jail.
Could you have paid a greater fine NOT to be sent to jail!? That seems…insane. Out of curiosity, why were you going over 90?
Nope. They were insistent on the jail time, and I believe the fine was ultimately reduced or waived, even though I didn’t fight or request it.
The week (well, work week. It was five days) was for good behavior, by the way. The actual sentence was 12 days, and they gave me a full day for the couple hours I had to wait around the day I bailed myself out.
As to why, I was halfway through a road trip and wanted to get to my destination quickly. I’d been going at or near that speed for a couple hours before running up behind the trooper, and I thought it was a reasonable sentence.
When I was 18 I got one for 137 in a 70 outside Nashville, TN. Deserved it for sure.
I got popped doing 79 in a 65 on the 14NB a few years ago.
Fortunately, I had slowed down by then. I expect the Chippie waited for me to slow down to a below-felonious speed to reduce his paperwork.
I got popped doing 79 in a 65 on the 14NB a few years ago.
Fortunately, I had slowed down by then. I expect the Chippie waited for me to slow down to a below-felonious speed to reduce his paperwork.
Psst…Your username looks familiar…have I seen you somewhere before?