# Who's Still Standing or Fuck You Duke Haters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 22, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644 "2004-03-22T01:18:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![GoHeels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@GoHeels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoHeels)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/61 "2004-03-25T23:03:53Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> **GoHeels** , you are listing players from different eras. The guys I’m talking about could have all been on the same team at Duke.
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> And I will grant you that UNC has lost some great talent over the years. But that’s part of my point. Only an elite few schools regularly face this problem. Meanwhile a middling program with good (but not NBA-good) players can wind up with a solid, senior-laden team that can compete well with a Duke or UNC team that is talented but perennially youthful. This has the effect of leveling the playing field in a way that didn’t happen in Wooden’s era, and is one more reason why it’s harder to maintain a dynasty today than it was back then.

Regarding your first paragraph: Not true.

I’ll give you an example: Our 1996 and 97 teams could have been…

PG: McInnis  
SG: Carter  
SF: Stackhouse  
PF: Jamison  
C: Wallace

…had Stack and Sheed and Touche decided to stay. How freaking amazing would those teams have been? You’re bitching about GOOD players leaving dook; I’m bitching about GREAT players bolting UNC.

Regarding your second paragraph: I agree with you.

And mullinator, while I also think John Wooden is the greatest coach ever, but one must always remember two words when evaluating the Wizard: SAM GILBERT.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/62 "2004-03-26T01:39:22Z")

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Relent, and admit the inherent moral and athletic superiority of DUKE!

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/63 "2004-03-29T04:46:15Z")

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Well, well, well, look who made it to the Final Four. Good Times. Who’s going to stop us now? Once Duke wins the tourney which in turn will allow to win all 3 of my pools, including the Straight Dope one, hearing all the trash being talked will be worth it. Bring it on UConn…

Seriously, congratulations to Romain Sato. Watching you in the tournament has been an absolute joy and I can’t wait for you to make in the NBA. Your story is one of the reason that makes me a college basketball fan.

And to Georgia Tech, man if you guys still had Chris Bosh, you’d be scary. But then my Raptors would have nothing going for them.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/64 "2004-04-04T04:21:31Z")

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D’oh!

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/65 "2004-04-04T04:22:49Z")

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Bitches. Just like I told you. And this world just keeps on spinnin.

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**Author:** ![agiantdwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@agiantdwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agiantdwarf)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/66 "2004-04-04T04:24:16Z")

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:d

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**Author:** ![agiantdwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@agiantdwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agiantdwarf)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/67 "2004-04-04T04:25:18Z")

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> [@agiantdwarf](#):
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> :d

what the hell? That should have been:

😃

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/68 "2004-04-04T04:37:18Z")

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DUKE FALLS! Justice is served.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/69 "2004-04-04T04:37:49Z")

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> [@Kid\_A](#):
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> Bring it on UConn…

Ah… I sit here, looking warmly at my degree from the University of Connecticut, thinking back to my time on the campus. Oh the sweet memories of Storrs, and the ConnDome. Unfortunately, I was gone for the 1999 Championship, when we upset poor pitiful Duke. What a tearjerker.

I am still away from Storrs, but tonight feels just as sweet. You know, I almost feel sorry for Duke.

No, actually not at all.

You You You You You - OOOOON you, that’s who!

U C O N N

UConn UConn UConn

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**Author:** ![AZCowboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AZCowboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AZCowboy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/70 "2004-04-04T05:39:10Z")

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> [@Kid\_A](#):
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> And to Georgia Tech, man if you guys still had Chris Bosh, you’d be scary.

Fuck you, fuck the Blue Devils, fuck Chris Bosh, and fuck the raptors.

Tech is, clearly, a better team without him. Never underestimate the power of deep bench.

Oh, and fuck the Georgia Bulldogs too!

GO JACKETS!  
TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!

Beat UCONN!

Again.

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**Author:** ![jujuju](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@jujuju](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jujuju)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/71 "2004-04-04T05:39:48Z")

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my grandfather taught at uconn, i’ve eaten at the faculty lodge many times 🙂

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**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/72 "2004-04-04T05:45:00Z")

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

An eight point lead with three minutes to go BLOWN!!! Well, maybe the women will do better against UCONN tomorrow. Oh, wait. That’s right–they choked against Minnesota and didn’t even get to the Final Four…

You said it, **Hentor**

U! C! O! N! N! Uconn! Uconn! Uconn!

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**Author:** ![ccwaterback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@ccwaterback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ccwaterback)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/73 "2004-04-04T08:01:26Z")

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Can’t really put it into words. heh heh heh 😃

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**Author:** ![Nightime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Nightime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightime)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/74 "2004-04-04T09:52:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> An eight point lead with three minutes to go BLOWN!!!

And the officials only had to throw out half the Duke team (including all THREE of their centers) to give UConn a chance.  
I’m no Duke fan, but there were some terrible calls. And then, when Duke desperately needed a call, and their player got absolutely mugged… silence.

Oh well. I guess it’s payback for all the times Duke has been on the other side of the officiating game (which seems to often be more important than the basketball game).

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/75 "2004-04-04T09:57:54Z")

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Well you know the hallmark of being a great coach is being able to get your team ready for the big games, Coach K had his team ready when they went down by 11 in the first 3 minutes…okay bad example. But a great coach makes sure his team plays well at crunch time… oh they gave up an eight point lead in a few minutes at the end you say…  
Hehe, Fuck Puke University and fuck coach K.

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**Author:** ![GoHeels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@GoHeels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoHeels)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/76 "2004-04-04T14:15:53Z")

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There is a God.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/77 "2004-04-04T14:30:12Z")

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> [@Nightime](#):
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> And the officials only had to throw out half the Duke team (including all THREE of their centers) to give UConn a chance.  
> I’m no Duke fan, but there were some terrible calls. And then, when Duke desperately needed a call, and their player got absolutely mugged… silence.
> 
> Oh well. I guess it’s payback for all the times Duke has been on the other side of the officiating game (which seems to often be more important than the basketball game).

Yeah, right. Uh huh - it was such unfair, lopsided officiating! Of course, Okafor played only half the game because it was his choice.

There was plenty of mugging both ways that did not get called, as well as plenty of ticky tack that did. In that sense, it was one of the oddest officiating efforts I’ve seen, but I don’t think you can whine about it either way.

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**Author:** ![NothingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@NothingMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NothingMan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/78 "2004-04-04T14:48:19Z")

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Hey **Mully**!! Are you lovin’ this or what?

I said it waaaaaaay back in the beginning of the thread and I’ll say it again . . .

_ **Georgia Freakin Tech** _!

We’ve been overlooked and under-appreciated all year. Monday night UConn will have a war on their hands. I hope the Huskies know what they are about to face . . . well actually thats a lie. I really hope they have no idea. Just like Kansas and Ok State.

Jackets baby.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/79 "2004-04-04T15:24:49Z")

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> [@AZCowboy](#):
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> Beat UCONN!
> 
> Again.

I am saddened to see folks like you, **AZCowboy** and **spoke-** , folks who so often make such wise and valuable contributions to the discussions I enjoy on these boards, coming down on the wrong side on this one.

Tis a sad day indeed. But tomorrow will be better!

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**Author:** ![GoHeels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@GoHeels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoHeels)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-still-standing-or-fuck-you-duke-haters/235644/80 "2004-04-04T15:36:53Z")

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> **[truthaboutduke.com](http://ww38.truthaboutduke.com/kyell2.mpg)**
>
> UNC Basketball Recruiting

Ain’t so easy winning when the zebras aren’t sucking your cock, eh Coach K? 😉

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