# Who's stupidest  --  Bush haters or Obama worshipers?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 17, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716 "2009-08-17T13:25:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/41 "2009-08-17T15:34:22Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Damn dude, you still don’t know? That one’s been settled. Sheesh. We got us a new contender for “stupider of the day”.
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> Everyone knows he was born right between his momma’s legs. Anyone who says otherwise is a whack job conspiracy nut.

Damn Cabbaginists and their leaf theory of life.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/42 "2009-08-17T15:36:46Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> (“Treasure”? Seriously? Are you confusing the real world and World of Warcraft again?)

[It’s a stupid phrase, but it’s an old one.](http://snarkmarket.com/blog/snarkives/societyculture/blood_and_treasure_genealogy_and_contexts/)

While some people do drool over Obama and it can be annoying to read, **Jimmy Joe Meager** shows once again that satire should be left to professionals - or at least to people who are somewhat intelligent and not blindly partisan.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/43 "2009-08-17T15:41:16Z")

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As far as I’m concerned, G W Bush was a gross incomepent, a colossal fuck up, a little boy playing at being president, possibly one of the worst presidents we ever had. As to Obama, I consider him to be less fucked up.

How’s that for total adoration? I hope I wasn’t gushing too much.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/44 "2009-08-17T15:48:41Z")

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I guess technically one group could be stupider than another. Kind of like the question: Who was stupider, Einstein or Hawking?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/45 "2009-08-17T15:48:50Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Well… it isn’t one of my stronger efforts, but if you like it that much you’re welcome to it.

Sweet!

What country was Obama born in?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/46 "2009-08-17T15:48:51Z")

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I will go further in my abject adoraton! I think he is, over all, a pretty decent fellow.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/47 "2009-08-17T15:51:14Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Are you serious? Really? This is a weak pitting and tweaking of hyper-sensitive lefties who’s chins quiver at anything other than fawning adulation of their precious One. This is neither an attempt at nor invitation to serious debate.

Oh. It’s a troll. Well, thanks for being so candid about it.

I know you’re not serious about debating, but could you please demonstrate the existence of “Obama-worshipers”?

Sasha and Malia don’t count, btw. They’re entitled. 😛

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/48 "2009-08-17T16:06:47Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> While some people do drool over Obama and it can be annoying to read, **Jimmy Joe Meager** shows once again that satire should be left to professionals - or at least to people who are somewhat intelligent and not blindly partisan.

Thanks for looking that up **Marley23** , but what I was doing wasn’t satire. It was a thinly veiled insult. I thought you knew the difference. Stupider.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/49 "2009-08-17T16:35:21Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> (1)Oh. It’s a troll. Well, thanks for being so candid about it.
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> (2) I know you’re not serious about debating, but could you please demonstrate the existence of “Obama-worshipers”?
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> (3) Sasha and Malia don’t count, btw. They’re entitled. 😛

You fail, miserably, on several counts. Allow me to un-stupidest you.

(1) No, it’s not. Just because I make you mad doesn’t make me a troll, and I’m not posting inflammatory comments solely to get a rise out of people. I’m Pitting those who blindly follow Obama.

(2) “I know you’re not serious about debating, but could you please (debate)?” What part of “I know you’re not serious about debating” don’t you understand? OK, OK… would you accept the ineffable proof of none other **Marley23** , esteemed Moderator?

> [@Marley23](#):
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> While some people do drool over Obama and it can be annoying to read…

“Drool”. “Annoying”. His words, not mine.

(3) “Entitled”? “_ENTITLED_”? There you go again! Liberal left-wing kooks offering yet another entitlement! And don’t EVEN get me started about THEIR birth certificates!!

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/50 "2009-08-17T16:38:59Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> As far as I’m concerned, G W Bush was a gross incomepent, a colossal fuck up, a little boy playing at being president, possibly one of the worst presidents we ever had. As to Obama, I consider him to be less fucked up.
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> How’s that for total adoration? I hope I wasn’t gushing too much.

Honestly, that didn’t sound like adoration at all. So apparently you don’t fall into the category of “Obama worshiper”. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/51 "2009-08-17T16:41:13Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> What country was Obama born in?

God’s country. Fool.  
Actually, there is some serious, legitimate debate, which I believe merits thorough examination, over whether or not he was born in the country, or in the city. I will not stop until the truth is revealed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/52 "2009-08-17T16:41:33Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> This is a weak pitting and tweaking of hyper-sensitive lefties who’s chins quiver at anything other than fawning adulation of their precious One.

Who the hell are you talking about? I bet you can’t even find someone matching this description on Daily Kos. Leave your right-wing fantasy cocoon and engage with the real world.

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**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/53 "2009-08-17T16:43:21Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> As far as I’m concerned, G W Bush was a gross incomepent, a colossal fuck up, a little boy playing at being president, possibly one of the worst presidents we ever had. As to Obama, I consider him to be less fucked up.
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> How’s that for total adoration? I hope I wasn’t gushing too much.

Isn’t it a bit early to be rushing to judgment?  
I think this line of thought leads the “other side” to believe that you, in fact, don’t care who runs the office as long as it isn’t Bush.  
False, sir.

Money spent is money spent, regardless of how or who spends it. Someone has to pay for that lost money, somehow someway. Yes, yes, we can get into a moral dilemma of what was spent for whom. Honestly a case could be made for either candidate to who will do/did best for the country. People have a hard time believing that the “other guy” could do better, regardless of who the other guy is.

btw, I voted for Ron Paul as hopeless as that was.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/54 "2009-08-17T16:45:09Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I will go further in my abject adoraton! I think he is, over all, a pretty decent fellow.

With all due respect, thinking someone a “pretty decent fellow” and “abject adoration” are nowhere near synonymous. It’s the fools who drool over Him in an annoying fashion that I pity. I pity them. I pity the fools.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/55 "2009-08-17T16:48:39Z")

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The Other Guy, duh.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/56 "2009-08-17T16:49:04Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> what I was doing wasn’t satire.

I thought you were doing a winking imitation of someone who is totally unaware of the failings of the Bush years, and yet found it annoying that some people are blind to _Obama_’s faults. Guess I gave you too much credit.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/57 "2009-08-17T16:49:17Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> Who the hell are you talking about? I bet you can’t even find someone matching this description on Daily Kos. Leave your right-wing fantasy cocoon and engage with the real world.

Methinks \*\*The Hamster King \*\*doth protest too much. If those kinds of people don’t really exist, why are you so worried that I speak against them? Would you be equally upset if I ranted against the existence of pink unicorns? Oh, excuse me, Pink Unicorns? Hmmm?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/58 "2009-08-17T16:52:02Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Methinks \*\*The Hamster King \*\*doth protest too much. If those kinds of people don’t really exist, why are you so worried that I speak against them? Would you be equally upset if I ranted against the existence of pink unicorns? Oh, excuse me, Pink Unicorns? Hmmm?

Perhaps not. He might just get the impression that you’re trolling.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/59 "2009-08-17T16:53:03Z")

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Lacks definition. Is whoring after attention the same as trolling?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/60 "2009-08-17T16:55:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Lacks definition. Is whoring after attention the same as trolling?

It is if you include transparent strawmanning, as the OP does.

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