# Who's stupidest -- Bush haters or Obama worshipers? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716 "2009-08-17T13:25:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/101 "2009-08-17T18:35:49Z")
This thread reminded me of that \*Jesus Camp \*documentary from a couple of years a go, I wonder if they now have the kids praying before and putting their hands upon a cardboard cutout of Obama? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/102 "2009-08-17T18:38:25Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#): > > I know that in an attempt to get me to engage you’ll call me names… > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Coward. Like I said, your predictability is your weakness. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/103 "2009-08-17T18:42:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Well, if it’s such a laughable assertion surely you can prove that it’s not true. Point me at a dozen Obama-worshipers, and I’ll concede both points (that they exist, and that they exist in numbers large enough to make my assertion laughable). > **[Is Barack Obama the Messiah?](http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/)** > > "... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire. January... Is this website a spoof? Satire? Fake? (I’m honestly not sure, that’s why I’m asking. If so, can you point out how to tell that it is?) If it is not satire, then do you concede? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/104 "2009-08-17T18:45:43Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#): > > [http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/](http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/) > > Is this website a spoof? Satire? Fake? (I’m honestly not sure, that’s why I’m asking. If so, can you point out how to tell that it is?) > > If it is not satire, then do you concede? It’s Satire. Obviously, you are too stupid to recognize that fact. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/105 "2009-08-17T18:57:51Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#): > > Right… the old “cite” and “proof” dodges to acknowledging facts. I could state that the sky is blue and you’d insist I prove it rather than just looking up. Go pound sand. [The](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/smillachan/Object%20Preview/officewindowview.jpg) [sky](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Sky_with_puffy_clouds.JPG) [is](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/SI-Sky.JPG) [blue](http://www.bigfoto.com/sites/galery/sky/10_sky.jpg). See how easy it was? Now it’s your turn! C’mon, you can do it! We believe in you! ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/106 "2009-08-17T18:59:19Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > It’s Satire. Obviously, you are too stupid to recognize that fact. Perhaps. It was the first thing I pulled off the Google. At least it’s in good company. [http://isbushantichrist.blogspot.com/](http://isbushantichrist.blogspot.com/) ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/107 "2009-08-17T19:19:06Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#): > > With all due respect, not here. If you want to start a Great Debate or your own Pit thread then please do, but I’m not going to engage you, on those topics, here. > > And just so you don’t accuse me of a bait & switch, just want to let you know that I probably won’t engage you on those topics elsewhere either. Nothing personal, I’m just not interested in having a message board debate about them. No personal offense taken. I was being sarcastic. I visited this thread to see if you had anything of substance to offer. You don’t. Not here at least. Empty assertions with nothing to back it up, and feeble sarcasm seems to be it. But hey, the SDMB is an excellent place to practice if you want to sharpen your rhetorical skills. It’s like playing tennis with someone a lot better than you in order to improve. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/108 "2009-08-17T19:23:19Z")
> [@tds1273](#): > > This thread reminded me of that \*Jesus Camp \*documentary from a couple of years a go, I wonder if they now have the kids praying before and putting their hands upon a cardboard cutout of Obama? asking God to stop his evil work? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/109 "2009-08-17T19:26:24Z")
> [@](#): > > …It’s like playing tennis with someone a lot better than you in order to improve. Not much of a spectator sport, like a match between Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder. Endless love. ---
**Author:** ![Kiber](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kiber/32/317_2.png) [@Kiber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiber)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/110 "2009-08-17T19:34:14Z")
All this is pointless anyway - because it’s way too soon to judge whether Obama is deserving of any worship. We need to let history judge his legacy first. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/111 "2009-08-17T19:44:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Not much of a spectator sport, like a match between Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder. Endless love. _quietly fills out the warrant_ ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/112 "2009-08-17T19:46:54Z")
Definitely the Obama-Worshippers are the stupider. Hating Bush is very reasonable. Worshipping Obama, or any new president, 8 months into his first term of office is not reasonable. Hell, I thought he was a little sparse on grey matter and I disagreed with many of his policies but I still thought Bush was kind of ok for a few months after 9/11. But then things kinda got … weird. I didn’t start _hating_ him though until he started wooing Iraq in war. That made him, and the US, look like a petty bully. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/113 "2009-08-17T19:54:16Z")
So Jimmy says “those people are stupid!” And then posters ask him to be specific about who “those people” are, and his defense is behaving stupidly, pretending not to be able to figure out what is being asked of him and such. Just my observation. Assuming his dodging of Dio’s question regarding Obama’s country of birth is due at least in part to some personal dislike of Dio (not something I have difficulty understanding), I’ll just ask it myself. So, Jimmy, do you believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/114 "2009-08-17T19:57:27Z")
He likes you better? Frankly, that would worry me. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/115 "2009-08-17T20:06:15Z")
Well, I’m assuming at we don’t have a _negative_ history, because I’ve no idea who he is. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/116 "2009-08-17T21:08:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Not much of a spectator sport, like a match between Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder. Endless love. Not much of an entertaining read is it. Even as pittings go. ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/117 "2009-08-17T22:18:00Z")
I got it! This is a trick question, isn’t it? The correct answer would be **BOTH**! ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/118 "2009-08-17T22:53:10Z")
This may not be the first time I’ve seen somebody pit a strawman, but it’s the only time in waking memory. I suddenly feel compelled to get very, very angry about the way republicans steal babies from poor people and eat them raw. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/119 "2009-08-17T23:00:06Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > This may not be the first time I’ve seen somebody pit a strawman, but it’s the only time in waking memory. Rush Limbaugh does it all the time. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716/120 "2009-08-17T23:11:07Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > …I suddenly feel compelled to get very, very angry about the way republicans steal babies from poor people and eat them raw. Would you rather they were purchased, or that they were parboiled? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-stupidest-bush-haters-or-obama-worshipers/506716.md?page=7)