# Who's the Best Aggregate Football Team Ever?

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**Created:** [October 16, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498 "2014-10-16T16:01:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/1 "2014-10-16T16:01:39Z")

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If you were to take all 32 NFL Franchises and create a team that features the best player at each position, in the prime of when they played, from any player that has ever played for that team, who would be the best team?

Some caveats to my thoughts:

- I’m talking about the starting 22 players. We don’t need to go any further than that since we don’t need to talk about subbing or any of that nonsense

- The same player can be on multiple teams. Remember, as long as that player spent time on the field for that team, they qualify. Yes that means the Niners AND the Chiefs have Joe Montana, Niners, Raiders, and Hawks all have Jerry Rice, etc.

- For the sake of argument and to make this a little more challenging, and to make it more fun, let’s put all of the players in TODAY’s game with TODAY’s rules. That means that Deacon Jones CANNOT use his head-slap because that would incur a penalty. Also none of those facemask grabs that they used back in the '50s.

- That last rule being said, the players know this and can play by today’s rules (they don’t have to learn them or anything) but keep this in consideration if you want to have a certain player over another  
I’ll weigh in on this eventually (I want to see how the thread goes first)

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/2 "2014-10-16T16:07:03Z")

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So the Jets, Vikings, and Packers all get to start prime-of-his-career Brett Favre?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/3 "2014-10-16T16:20:00Z")

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Atlanta, too. But the Packers would probably be better off with Aaron Rodgers.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/4 "2014-10-16T16:40:26Z")

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As a random data point, the Bears have the most players in the Hall of Fame (32).

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/5 "2014-10-16T18:07:53Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> So the Jets, Vikings, and Packers all get to start prime-of-his-career Brett Favre?

Yup! So the Viking fan could ask do they want prime-of-his-career Favre (INTs and all…) or POIC Cunningham? Same with Atlanta, want Favre? Vick? Steve DeBerg?

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Atlanta, too. But the Packers would probably be better off with Aaron Rodgers.

And therein is the debate for each teams fans!

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/6 "2014-10-16T19:09:12Z")

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I notice you only list players, but what about the coach? They’re the ones calling the plays and deciding the scheme, and a player that works well in one scheme might be crap at another.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/7 "2014-10-16T19:35:58Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> I notice you only list players, but what about the coach? They’re the ones calling the plays and deciding the scheme, and a player that works well in one scheme might be crap at another.

Oh wow, I never thought about that.

I think that we should include coaches and schemes should be taken into account

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/8 "2014-10-16T19:48:31Z")

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Well, if we stick JUST to Hall of Famers, the Packers have Hall of Famers at 15 positions:

Coach: Vince Lombardi  
QB: Bart Starr (Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers may be better)  
RB: Paul Hornung  
RB: Jim Taylor  
WR: Don Hutson  
Center: Jim Ringo  
Guard: Forrest Gregg  
DT: Henry Jordan  
DT: Cal Hubbard  
DE: Reggie White  
DE: Willie Davis  
ILB: Ray Nitschke  
OLB: Dave Robinson  
Free Safety: Willie Wood  
Strong safety: Emlen Tunnell  
Cornerback: Herb Adderley

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/9 "2014-10-16T19:55:23Z")

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As you might imagine, the Steelers ain’t too shabby either. They have Hall of Famerrs at 13 positions. And a

Coach: Chuck Noll

QB: Terry Bradshaw  
RB: Franco Harris  
WR: John Stallworth  
WR: Lynn Swann  
C: Either Dermontti Dawson or Mike Webster

DT: Ernie Stautner  
DT: Joe Greene  
ILB: Jack Lambert  
OLB: Jack Ham  
Safety: Rod Woodson  
CB: Mel Blount  
CB: Jack Butler

Seems like a safe bet Jerome Bettis will be in soon, too.

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/10 "2014-10-16T19:56:58Z")

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I’ll give it a shot for Da Bears

Offense:  
C – Jay Hilgenberg  
G – Stan Jones  
G – Tom Thayer (when in doubt, pick someone from the ‘85 team)  
OT – Joe Stydahar  
OT – Jimbo Covert  
WR – Brandon Marshall  
WR – Alshon Jeffrey  
TE – Mike Ditka  
RB – Walter Payton  
QB – Jim McMahon (this was a tough call. Sid Luckman is the consensus best Bears’ QB, but in the modern game, I doubt he could compete with Cutler or the punky QB. Jim McMahon’s main problems were staying healthy – his performance was quite good as long as he was on the field, so I say give him a shot)  
I guess for the final OFF position, we’ll go with Marcus Robinson as a 3rd WR

Defense:  
DE – Richard Dent  
DE – Julius Peppers  
DT – Tommy Harris (his peak was ever so brief but he was a monster)  
DT – Dan Hampton  
LB – Dick Butkus  
LB – Mike Singletary  
LB – Brian Urlacher  
CB – Charles Tillman  
CB – Donnell Woolford (but keep an eye on Jennings and Fuller, those guys are good)  
SS – Mike Brown  
FS – Gary Fencik

Special Teams:  
K – Kevin Butler  
KR/PR – Devin Hester

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/11 "2014-10-16T20:02:48Z")

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For my Giants:

QB: Y.A. Tittle  
RB: Frank Gifford  
RB: Tuffy Leemans  
C: Mel Hein

DE: Michael Strahan  
DE: Andy Robustelli  
OLB: Lawrence Taylor  
ILB: Harry Carson  
ILB: Sam Huff  
FS: Emlen Tunnell

I can probably add Tiki Barber down the road

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/12 "2014-10-16T20:06:51Z")

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For the Raiders:

RB: Marcus Allen  
WR: Fred Biletnikoff  
TE: Dave Casper  
G: Gene Upshaw  
OT: Art Shell  
C: Jim Otto

DE: Howie Long  
LB: Ted Hendricks  
CB: Willie Brown  
CB: Mike Haynes

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/13 "2014-10-16T20:10:35Z")

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Colts:

Coach: Don Shula

QB: Johnny Unitas  
RB: Eric Dickerson  
RB: Lenny Moore  
WR: Raymond Berry  
TE: John Mackey

DE: Gino Marchetti  
DT: Art Donovan  
LB: Ted Hendricks

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/14 "2014-10-16T20:15:31Z")

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The Washington, er, R-words

QB: Sammy Baugh or Sonny Jurgensen  
RB: John Riggins  
RB: Cliff Battles  
WR: Charlie Taylor  
WR: Art Monk  
Guard: Russ Grimm

LB: Chris Hanburger  
Strong Safety: Ken Houston  
CB: Darrell Green

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/15 "2014-10-16T20:39:10Z")

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So let’s do something with this.

Let’s put our heads together and put together each team. Then we can have the teams play it out and see who the champ is.

This’ll probably be a lot of work on my part…so if I can formally organize it, would anyone want to play? Could be a fun debate

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**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/16 "2014-10-16T20:41:40Z")

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> [@Sterling\_Archer](#):
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> I’ll give it a shot for Da Bears
> 
> Offense:  
> C – Jay Hilgenberg  
> G – Stan Jones  
> G – Tom Thayer (when in doubt, pick someone from the ‘85 team)  
> OT – Joe Stydahar  
> OT – Jimbo Covert  
> WR – Brandon Marshall  
> WR – Alshon Jeffrey  
> TE – Mike Ditka  
> RB – Walter Payton  
> QB – Jim McMahon (this was a tough call. Sid Luckman is the consensus best Bears’ QB, but in the modern game, I doubt he could compete with Cutler or the punky QB. Jim McMahon’s main problems were staying healthy – his performance was quite good as long as he was on the field, so I say give him a shot)  
> I guess for the final OFF position, we’ll go with Marcus Robinson as a 3rd WR
> 
> Defense:  
> DE – Richard Dent  
> DE – Julius Peppers  
> DT – Tommy Harris (his peak was ever so brief but he was a monster)  
> DT – Dan Hampton  
> LB – Dick Butkus  
> LB – Mike Singletary  
> LB – Brian Urlacher  
> CB – Charles Tillman  
> CB – Donnell Woolford (but keep an eye on Jennings and Fuller, those guys are good)  
> SS – Mike Brown  
> FS – Gary Fencik
> 
> Special Teams:  
> K – Kevin Butler  
> KR/PR – Devin Hester

Nice team. One change I’d make for sure is on that 11th offensive player. I’d figure out a way to scheme with two RB’s and add Gale Sayers. I’d probably go with Luckman at QB, but really, with a backfield featuring Payton and Sayers who cares who the QB is?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/17 "2014-10-16T20:56:13Z")

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Cleveland Browns:

QB: Otto Graham  
RB: Jim Brown  
RB: Marion Motley  
WR: Paul Warfield  
WR: Dante Lavelli  
TE: Ozzie Newsome  
C: Frank Gatski  
OT: Mike McCormack

DE: Len Ford  
DT: Bill Willis

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/18 "2014-10-16T21:01:31Z")

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Minnesota Vikings

QB: Fran Tarkenton  
WR: Cris Carter  
OT Ron Yary  
G: Randall McDaniel

DT: Alan Page  
DT: John Randle  
DE: Carl Eller  
DE: Chris Doleman  
FS: Paul Krause

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/19 "2014-10-16T21:04:19Z")

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San Diego Chargers

QB: Dan Fouts  
WR: Lance Alworth  
WR: Charlie Joiner  
TE: Kellen Winslow  
OT: Ron Mix

DE: Fred Dean

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-best-aggregate-football-team-ever/701498/20 "2014-10-16T21:55:12Z")

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The Baltimore Ravens don’t have a lot of history to work with, but they’re better than I expected them to be.

QB: Steve McNair  
RB: Jamal Lewis, with Priest Holmes as a change of pace back  
WR: Steve Smith, Anquan Boldin, Derrick Mason  
TE: Shannon Sharpe, Todd Heap  
OT: Jonathon Ogden, Orlando Brown  
G: Marshall Yanda, Edwin Mulitalo  
C: Matt Birk

DT: Kelly Gregg, Haloti Ngata  
DE: Rob Burnett, Michael McCrary  
MLB: Ray Lewis  
OLB: Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware  
CB: Deion Sanders, Chris McAllister  
S: Ed Reed, Rod Woodson

PR: Jermaine Lewis  
KR: Jacoby Jones  
K: Matt Stover  
P: Kyle Richardson

There are a lot of players who had their best years with other teams (McNair, Sharpe, all three wideouts), and a few who made the team by default (e.g. Heap, Mulitalo). The right side of the o-line (Brown and Mulitalo) is pretty shaky, but the defense is awfully strong. Not a bad lineup for a team that’s been around less than 20 years.

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