# Who's the most Evil Disney villain?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [November 17, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576 "2019-11-17T14:57:54Z")
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### Author:  [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/1 "2019-11-17T14:57:54Z")
In your considered opinion, that is.
At the bottom of the list I’d put Cinderella’s stepmother (who’s really only cruel to one person) and Sher Khan from The Jungle Book (who’s desire for Mowgli’s death is arguably self-defense). Captain Hook is too comical.
Cruella de Vil is much more Evil, killing puppy dogs to make a coat.
Frollo from _Hunchback of Notre Dame_ deserves special mention.
Hades from _Hercules_ is a consideration (or maybe he’s just out for revenge).
and then there’s Cernobog from _Fantasia_ who spends his free time playing and tormenting the souls of the damned.
Who do YOU think?
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### Author:  [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/2 "2019-11-17T15:14:48Z")
2nd runner up: the Beagle Boys
1st runner up: Black Pete
Top: Gladstone Gander. He may not technically be Evil, but he is certainly a jerk.
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### Author:  [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/3 "2019-11-17T15:24:12Z")
I think Scar has to be up there - kill your brother, blame your nephew, establish a totalitarian fascist state.
BTW, I think that the suggestions should stick to original Disney properties and not acquired properties like Star Wars. Just a suggestion to the OP. Otherwise we will be up to our elbows in Sith.
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### Author:  [@KMS94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KMS94)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/4 "2019-11-17T15:31:02Z")
Cruella de vil popped into my head as soon as I read the thread title. Puppies! Even her name is basically “Cruel devil”
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### Author:  [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/5 "2019-11-17T15:33:33Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> I think Scar has to be up there - kill your brother, blame your nephew, establish a totalitarian fascist state.
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> BTW, I think that the suggestions should stick to original Disney properties and not acquired properties like Star Wars. Just a suggestion to the OP. Otherwise we will be up to our elbows in Sith.
I agree, let’s stick to original Disney and Pixar productions only.
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/6 "2019-11-17T15:46:08Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> BTW, I think that the suggestions should stick to original Disney properties and not acquired properties like Star Wars. Just a suggestion to the OP. Otherwise we will be up to our elbows in Sith.
I was gonna go with Thanos 😛 I guess I’ll go with the evil queen from snow white then. Killing a girl and having her heart brought to you in a box just because she’s prettier? that’s evil right there.
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### Author:  [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/7 "2019-11-17T15:48:03Z")
Scar is a good one to say because he’s one of the few I can think of that straight up murdered someone…a family member no less.
Cruella gets props because while her crimes aren’t the biggest…they’re the most sadistic.
I think Ursula should get some thoughts too as she made purposely crooked deals to torture and keep souls. Killing someone is bad, but turning them into a brown goop fish thingy and holding them like that for (presumably) all eternity is just cruel.
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### Author:  [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/8 "2019-11-17T15:53:55Z")
Michael Eisner
😃
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### Author:  [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/9 "2019-11-17T15:55:29Z")
Walt.
Racist, misogynist, credit-stealing, McCarthy-ite, virulently anti-union, etc.
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### Author:  [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/10 "2019-11-17T15:59:58Z")
Mother Gothel from _Tangled_. All the others are EEEEEE-vil and don’t make any attempt to hide it. She spends 18 years pretending to love Rapunzel and to do what’s best for her. And she has hides it from her with a nasty passive-aggressive personality.
> [@Mother Gothel](#):
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> [looking in the mirror with Rapunzel]
> Mother Gothel: Rapunzel, look in that mirror. Do you know what I see? I see a strong, confident, beautiful young lady.
> [Rapunzel smiles]
> Mother Gothel: Oh look, you’re here too!
And, of course, the repeated “I’m just teasing,” when she says something particularly hurtful.
Gothel is particularly evil because her villainy is real. You don’t get many people making dalmatian coats, or stealing someone’s voice, or murdering his brother to become king (not any more, at least). But there are real Mother Gothels out there and that makes her worse.
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### Author:  [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/11 "2019-11-17T16:23:13Z")
> [@ftg](#):
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> Walt.
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> Racist, misogynist, credit-stealing, McCarthy-ite, virulently anti-union, etc.
Duly noted.
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### Author:  [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/12 "2019-11-17T16:24:59Z")
Another one flying under the radar is the Coachman from _Pinocchio_ who buys boys and takes them to Pleasure Island, where they turn themselves horrifically into donkeys, which the Coachman then sells (for a higher price one assumes).
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### Author:  [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/13 "2019-11-17T17:07:07Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Sher Khan from The Jungle Book (who’s desire for Mowgli’s death is arguably self-defense).
I don’t think he’s the worst of the Disney lot but, to correct the record, his desire for Mowgli’s death stemmed directly from breaking the Law of the Jungle by murdering Mowgli’s parents and then demanded that the Pack hand the infant Mowgli over so he could eat him. Also, Sher Khan’s actions threatened to bring the wrath of the village upon the jungle (thus the prohibition on killing men) and threatened all the inhabitants simply because Sher Khan was feeling too lazy to hunt proper prey.
Even as Mowgli got older, it wasn’t self-defense in the “fight off muggers on the street” sense but “tie up loose ends from a crime” sense plus Sher Khan still feeling entitled to Mowgli as a prize from his hunt. There’s not much grey area in Sher Khan’s deeds.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/14 "2019-11-17T17:30:11Z")
Is _Who Framed Roger Rabbit?_ Disney-sufficient to count? If so, I nominate Judge Doom, who sadistically killed an innocent cartoon shoe. And Eddie Valiant’s brother or whatever.
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### Author:  [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/15 "2019-11-17T17:44:46Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Is _Who Framed Roger Rabbit?_ Disney-sufficient to count? If so, I nominate Judge Doom, who sadistically killed an innocent cartoon shoe. And Eddie Valiant’s brother or whatever.
Yes, that’s Disney enough.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/16 "2019-11-17T18:18:16Z")
Syndrome, from _The Incredibles_, is basically a serial killer.
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### Author:  [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/17 "2019-11-17T19:02:16Z")
Syndrome possible has the largest confirmed deaths, maybe. Percival C. McLeach would be the closest, possibly even surpassing Syndrome, by dint of a huge plot hole that leaves his hoard of prisoners dead by desertion.
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### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/18 "2019-11-17T20:23:39Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> In your considered opinion, that is.
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> At the bottom of the list I’d put Cinderella’s stepmother (who’s really only cruel to one person) and Sher Khan from The Jungle Book (who’s desire for Mowgli’s death is arguably self-defense). Captain Hook is too comical.
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> Cruella de Vil is much more Evil, killing puppy dogs to make a coat.
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> Frollo from _Hunchback of Notre Dame_ deserves special mention.
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> Hades from _Hercules_ is a consideration (or maybe he’s just out for revenge).
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> and then there’s Cernobog from _Fantasia_ who spends his free time playing and tormenting the souls of the damned.
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> Who do YOU think?
_SHERE_ Khan.
That is all. Carry on.
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### Author:  [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/19 "2019-11-17T22:13:57Z")
\*\*Miller \*\* beat me to Syndrome. He’s straight-up evil. I’ll go with him and Cruella.
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### Author:  [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-the-most-evil-disney-villain/843576/20 "2019-11-17T23:06:46Z")
Scar had reason to be the way he was. His mother named him Garbage because she liked Mufasa so much better. Syndrome was cast aside as a child. Judge Doom has a deep self-hatred. But Cruella? She was evil just for evil’s sake. Because she liked causing pain and suffering. She gets my vote.
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